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Re: Generic football news

Postby ramsej84 » Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:19 am

Kovacevic.

He was wounded by a gun shot in athens.
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Re: Generic football news

Postby ramsej84 » Fri Jan 17, 2020 9:39 am

Former Prime Minister Joseph Muscat has held talks with the Malta Football Association over his involvement in a project to send a Maltese team to compete in the Italian Serie C.

Dr Muscat met Malta FA president Bjorn Vassallo and top officials at their headquarters in Ta’Qali on Wednesday, sources have told Times of Malta.

It is understood details of the Serie C project were discussed. Dr Muscat has made clear his ambition to take an active role in Maltese sports administration after his departure from frontline politics. [source]
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Re: Generic football news

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:12 am

Berlusconi II: a corrupt Milanista politician in football.

I have lost faith in this project for Maltese football. It is doomed to failure because it is more concerned with getting a well-known name with no credentials on board than someone who’s whole life is football and who knows how to do what’s best for the country’s future in football.
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Re: Generic football news

Postby ramsej84 » Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:21 am

It is not yet confirmed what role if any he will occupy... he may be turned down by B.Vassallo (who is a Nazzjonalist afeter all)
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Re: Generic football news

Postby Fénix » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:19 am

Is it enough of this football?

Players are overloaded, but where is the saturation limit for us fans?

Author: Saša Ibrulj, January 29 2020


It should have been one Saturday, one of those romantic football days in a football season that can only offer a domestic cup. The best team on the planet, unstoppable machine which is demolishing everything in front of itself, likely the next Premier League champion and absolutely the current European and World champion has stopped for a moment, on the place literally called the New Meadow.

Provincial third divison Shrewsbury Town, that is fighting to stay in the English League One, in front of 9.510 souls, of which, worth to mention it, 1.684 were away fans, managed to equalize 2 goals minus again the great Liverpool. Besides the lads stayed undefeated, there were so close to score the third one and so The Shrews fought for another match that, according to the rules of the oldest football competition, is going to be played at Anfield.

However, while home fans were still running onto the pitch to worthily celebrate this historic success and start fantasizing about that is waiting for the in February and the money that the match is going to bring to the club, behind their backs as some faded, yellow Grinch sneaked up Jürgen Klopp and spoiled their late Christmas. You will not see Klopp crying, he did not do that not even during the heaviest defeats, but one of his emotional eruptions was the closest to howling that we will see from modern coaches.

"I have already promised my boys 2 weeks ago that they are going to have a winter break and a chance to get rest", close to this said Klopp, "and I am going to keep my promise, which means nobody of us is not going to be in the rematch at Anfield". The Premier League had already asked us in April last year to respect the winter break and that is what we are going to do."

As manufacturers need a break, so will consumers sooner or later. The vicious circle begins but also ends with the fans


Two sentences, one "promise to the boys" was enough to bring the focus from some ordinary little football club out there that made something that is a miracle to them and their fans and represents the important part of history, to return to the problems of the rich and great clubs. Much more important problems.

Klopp's statement didn't last a night and the front was open and that with a fierce fire from both sides. On one side, those who accuse Klopp for unnecessary whining, especially given the fact the German knew before the match that in case his team doesn't win he will have to play a rematch during the improvised winter break that was formed by the EPL, and on the other side those who his statement justify with the fact that there are too many matches in modern football which players can't physically handle so it is time to draw the line somewhere.

And both are right.

Klopp did show lack of respect towards his opponent and the competition in which his teams plays. Klopp did whine, as our people like to say here(in Croatia), he went crazy, justifying himself with the decision of the Premier League. But Klopp is also absolutely right and he is telling the truth. His team, that has played 15 matches in around 50 days in four different competitions, deserves its rest because it simply plays too many matches.

How much football is actually too much?

It is not questionable at all that all this what modern football put to players, ie the amount of matches per season they play, is beyond every normal limit. This question was resolved long time ago, it was written and said quite enough, and even this most recent debate that Klopp has raised does not put it into question. Those who defend him as well as those who attack him agree that players play too many matches and that, despite of a development of sports medicine and accelerated regeneration, find it hard to bear.

The real question is - how much football we[fans] can (still) handle?

The early development of the popularity of the football game consequently created or raised its economic value. Some of the most important clubs throughout history, and Liverpool perhaps the best example, have emerged almost exclusively from the desire to profit from its popularity. However, regardless of the economic importance they had, all traditional football competitions arose solely from sporting incentives, that is, a desire to compete. Football evolved rapidly, professionalized even faster, and money has always played an important role, but not the most important.

The first revolutionary change in the economic value of football came with the rapid development of television as the most popular medium. Football ceased to be enclosed in stadiums and local communities from which it originated and began to open rapidly, easily transforming its own specificity, competitive character, the perfect combination of individuality and tribalism into an extremely attractive and powerful weapon on the market. Globalization was a wind in the back of a well-developed and well-prepared product that turned into a money factory, precisely because of the fact that it retained its primary character, even though in practice it was merely a shimmering decorative paper.

And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. We live in a time of consumerism in which football, as an industry, has made the most of it, turning something that, in theory, should only be a game into an extremely lucrative business of which lives not too large, but still very small piece of humanity. The real problem is that we have reached a point that is hard to see from the glittering colors and glamor. The point at which the already huge factory is steadily expanding, and that the natural source of the raw material is already maximally exploited and cannot be greater.

The point where football is increasingly losing its essence for being where it is - the urge to compete.

The vicious circle created by the economic value of football actually started with us, once upon fans, then football fanatics, and today the consumers who give their money for such a product. The aforementioned globalization has expanded and diluted such a market to such an extent that the rules have been completely changed and adjusted to the quantity and creation of different interest groups than those typically football ones.

The traditionally big and wealthy clubs here have had a starting advantage over everyone else, using their position and power and transforming themselves into global superclubs. They transformed and adapted traditional competitions long time ago by using their the most of their potential. It was way smaller when it came to domestic competition, and so evolved much more, above all, the most important continental; they have been transformed into elitist ones but they also generate much higher additional income.

So it is no wonder that all Klopps of the world give preference to taking some rest over traditional, important, but financially unattractive competitions.

Last season Manchester City made a profit of £147,5 million, for reaching the CL quarterfinal £86 million while for winning the FA Cup £6,8 million. Southampton, that barely saved themselves from relegation, received more than 100 million pounds from the Premier League, Sherwsbury on the other side, as it is estimated, will earn £500.000 at Anfield. For such a club, it is an enormous money, but a drop in the sea for the big clubs that have quite big (and expensive) rosters, that they can afford to play with, relatively speaking, worse players. The Premier League will turn over £9.2 billion over a three-year cycle, leaving only £16.1 million a year under League One's solidarity program.

And of course, then, the FA Cup - or national cups anywhere - is not the only or the biggest problem. As Klopp himself pointed out, the situation is made worse by the fact that everyone wants their share of the cake and does not even think about the consequences. Both players and coaches and clubs and bosses are looking for themselves, but also those who run the football: first through FAs, leagues and associations, and then through international organizations. And all of them, Klopp explains, devise their own ways of earning money without nearly communicating with each other. Or, to put it simply, everyone is equally greedy and does not care about anyone else.

This is how the League of Nations has emerged in recent years, the European Championship has been expanded, the World Cup has been expanded, and the expansion of the Champions League is seriously considered. Of course, another competition was created to keep the poorer and the little ones entertained, and now the under-attractive Europa League is at least a little more elite. In the meantime, FIFA also realized that Mundial was not enough for them, so they decided to grab a pot with clubs and seriously plan to take a most advantage of the club WC. The number of matches is only growing, the competitions almost coincide with each other, the players have absolutely no time to rest, but nobody cares as long as they think that these matches will generate enough money.

Well, that brings us back to the same question.

Greedy thinking through existing competitions has already created the hyperinflation of football around us, and it will ultimately have the greatest impact on the future of the sport itself. There are simply too many competitions - not only for the players, but also for us as consumers of the product. True, many of them are tailored to a market that is significantly different from the European, but a good deal of them - just like national cups in the strongest or generally competing in weaker football cultures - have lost their primary purpose.

It may be just a subjective/personal impression, but the new ones that are created do not hide the goal of generating almost exclusively money, and people do not or will not have the same interest as before. How much time and money will we be able to devote to modern football, how much to combine it with family or business or just everyday life?

After all, as manufacturers need a break, so will consumers sooner or later, who then - or who already do - will also favor those most important and interesting competitions. The vicious circle begins but also ends with the fans.

Again, it would be naïve to expect that football will develop in a different direction, and already now we have reached a point from which there is no going back, so it is very likely that at some point it will evolve towards an even smaller and more closed group that will form some kind of continental or a global super league. The audience has already mutated to such an extent that we who, with football, have a local, social, family, cultural or some kind of traditional connection have become rare and increasingly suffocated by commercialized superclub fans who will eventually turn us into fossils and part of a distant history.

Less is more - this is one of the principles on which the joy of football rested, and sooner or later football shall have to return to that mantra. It will come just as a result of hyperinflation and satiety, but also likely will pull off with it as collateral damage traditional competitions, romantic Sundays and wonders like Shrewsbury and their guest appearances at Anfield.



Saturation came long time ago just as Arsenal's David Dein had said 16 years ago and some even laughed at him back then. =D> =D> =D> =D>

Articles precisely such as this one have been explaining everything what's been going on in football for the last 15 years and why, in my humble opinion, today and in the past 6-7 years everything looks or becomes so negative, so predictable, so uninteresting, boring, very weak and so on.

No wonder why Monaco, Ajax, Tottenham, Leicester City, Atalanta and 2-3 more clubs in the last 7-8 years have received a lot of praise and have become very positive in both domestic and international football. Ordinary people in their own countries who don't support big clubs want heroes, romance, something to feel and identify with, not just to scratch and consume the shining surface, swallow and throw out or serve as sheep to fill someone's pockets with money, their young talents and players, etc.

Football as a total business and globalization product has taken away football from the old 90's, 80's, 70's and early 2000's fans and ultras. They no longer can identify themselves with anything and from all news, hype, transfer rumors and numbers both clubs, players and agents earn fans have literally nothing to do with it in their ordinary lives. Saša says well, we older generations are about to convert into fossils because we don't want to suffer from illness and be the part of it which called consumerism.

So yes... Germans are right all the time. Their ultras, fans, supporters, spectators definitely are standing all the time where football as sport should be and as it's meant to be, that's why I started to follow Bundesliga 22 years ago. Still, modern football goes against those values and tradition while the level of competition in German football, today's destiny and reality of many Traditionsvereine, the fact that concentration of quality of coaches and players go totally opposite to their slogan and values.

We are also suffering from all this. We actually had never wanted to change 12-13 years ago, but we were forced to change. Modern football and European competition had forced us to do all these things in summer 2007, 2009, 2011 and 2012. The same goes from summer 2015 when we didn't want to adapt to all this wild market, but still... we are totally dominating in our own country which also says we aren't that bad, but for the wild and insane international standards we are far away.
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Re: Generic football news

Postby ramsej84 » Wed Feb 12, 2020 4:54 pm

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Re: Generic football news

Postby Firefox1234 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 7:01 pm

Welcome to the Allianz Arena....

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Re: Generic football news

Postby ramsej84 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 8:44 pm

Firefox1234 wrote: Can't see tweet? Click here!
This should go into the positive news thread
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Re: Generic football news

Postby Jorge » Thu Feb 20, 2020 12:03 am

Besting LUis Suarez:
Amateur footballer in France banned for biting opponent's penis [source]
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Re: Generic football news

Postby MCollins » Sun Mar 08, 2020 7:37 pm

What do you guys think about the season being (most likely) finished on empty stadiums, due to the virus pandemic? Or, in worst case scenario, leagues being suspended?

Also this:
https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/co ... handshakes

It is affecting tennis matches as well, as ball boys can no longer carry the towels etc.
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Re: Generic football news

Postby Firefox1234 » Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:32 pm

MCollins wrote:What do you guys think about the season being (most likely) finished on empty stadiums, due to the virus pandemic? Or, in worst case scenario, leagues being suspended?

Also this:
https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/co ... handshakes

It is affecting tennis matches as well, as ball boys can no longer carry the towels etc.
It would be tragic but im not a person who thinks football matches should trump public safety so I would definitely understand the decision if it was made.
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Postby MaCk0y » Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:51 pm

Banning handshakes before matches... Meanwhile every second, the pitch is filled with spit and snot from the players who slide, tackle, dive and tumble over. :P
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Re: Generic football news

Postby ramsej84 » Tue Mar 17, 2020 7:01 pm

Copa America postponed for 2021

The new Club World Cup was also postponed to date still to be determined
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