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Who do you think will win the 2018 FIFA World Cup?

Poll ended at Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:48 am

Uruguay
0
No votes
France
7
41%
Brazil
3
18%
Belgium
2
12%
Sweden
0
No votes
England
1
6%
Russia
1
6%
Croatia
3
18%
 
Total votes : 17

Re: 2018 FIFA World Cup Russia

Postby Lukas » Tue Jul 17, 2018 9:57 am

Given that it was "Frenchmen of yore" that colonised francophone Africa in the first place would they really be that surprised that their subjects had moved to France for a better life?
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Re: 2018 FIFA World Cup Russia

Postby MUTU » Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:07 am

Lukas wrote:Given that it was "Frenchmen of yore" that colonised francophone Africa in the first place would they really be that surprised that their subjects had moved to France for a better life?

... not to mention the slaves they 'imported' from Africa.
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Re: 2018 FIFA World Cup Russia

Postby ramsej84 » Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:08 am

Lukas wrote:Given that it was "Frenchmen of yore" that colonised francophone Africa in the first place would they really be that surprised that their subjects had moved to France for a better life?

Karma,...
Yes that I agree ...
you reap what you saw...

same as England :wink:
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Re: 2018 FIFA World Cup Russia

Postby ramsej84 » Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:45 am

https://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/v ... ays.684598

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Re: 2018 FIFA World Cup Russia

Postby #12 » Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:27 am

ramsej84 wrote:
MUTU wrote:
America USA wrote:If I was to go back in time a century or so and show the Frenchmen of yore a picture of the 2018 “France” team I’d never come back to the present because I would be guillotined!

A century ago there wasn't a World Cup, but there was a World War instead. Below is an image of the French Army in World War I, circa 1918:
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Furthermore, take a read here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senegalese_Tirailleurs

#12 tried to imply your mindset was a century old, but rather I'd like to point out to the historian himself that it's actually older than that.

Anyway, don't forget to give your horse enough food and water on your voyage, sir!



WW2 foreign soldiers were also used.
France employed Algerians ...
While Germany had middle eastern soldiers fighting for her, not to mention the eastern europeans ...


Germany is a she?
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Re: 2018 FIFA World Cup Russia

Postby #12 » Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:29 am

ramsej84 wrote:https://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20180716/russia-world-cup-2018/world-cup-final-pitch-intruder-jailed-for-15-days.684598

note the two comments underneath the report :lol:


They are ALL French... No one would ask that question were their skin white... What a racist shithead...
They’re not more or less French than Zidane for example...
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Re: 2018 FIFA World Cup Russia

Postby #12 » Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:32 am

Lukas wrote:Given that it was "Frenchmen of yore" that colonised francophone Africa in the first place would they really be that surprised that their subjects had moved to France for a better life?


Also, why would they treat him like one of their kings...?
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Re: 2018 FIFA World Cup Russia

Postby MUTU » Tue Jul 17, 2018 12:01 pm

#12 wrote:
ramsej84 wrote:https://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20180716/russia-world-cup-2018/world-cup-final-pitch-intruder-jailed-for-15-days.684598

note the two comments underneath the report :lol:


They are ALL French... No one would ask that question were their skin white... What a racist shithead...
They’re not more or less French than Zidane for example...

Didn't you get the memo? Your nationality is not the one where you were born and lived all (or at least most of) your life but the country where your great-grandmother opened her legs to give birth to your grandparent. In the case where not all 4 of your great-grandmothers opened their legs in the same exact country, the country which has the darkest average skin colour automatically becomes your nationality.

Some examples:
Person X - born in Germany, both parents born in Germany, 3 of his grandparents were born in Germany and 1 grandparent born in Ghana => Person X is Ghanian, obviously.
Person Y - born in Germany, both parents born in Germany, 2 of his grandparents born in Germany, 1 grandparent born in Sudan and 1 grandparent born in France => Person Y is Sudanese, obviously.
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Re: 2018 FIFA World Cup Russia

Postby ramsej84 » Tue Jul 17, 2018 12:05 pm

MUTU wrote:
#12 wrote:
ramsej84 wrote:https://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20180716/russia-world-cup-2018/world-cup-final-pitch-intruder-jailed-for-15-days.684598

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They are ALL French... No one would ask that question were their skin white... What a racist shithead...
They’re not more or less French than Zidane for example...

Didn't you get the memo? Your nationality is not the one where you were born and lived all (or at least most of) your life but the country where your great-grandmother opened her legs to give birth to your grandparent. In the case where not all 4 of your great-grandmothers opened their legs in the same exact country, the country which has the darkest average skin colour automatically becomes your nationality.

Some examples:
Person X - born in Germany, both parents born in Germany, 3 of his grandparents were born in Germany and 1 grandparent born in Ghana => Person X is Ghanian, obviously.
Person Y - born in Germany, both parents born in Germany, 2 of his grandparents born in Germany, 1 grandparent born in Sudan and 1 grandparent born in France => Person Y is Sudanese, obviously.

Not to go into polemics, but some of the French play were not born in France...

Even past ones.

But whatever ...

Vive la France

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Re: 2018 FIFA World Cup Russia

Postby MUTU » Tue Jul 17, 2018 12:11 pm

ramsej84 wrote:Not to go into polemics, but some of the French play were not born in France...

Yes, specifically Steve Mandanda (0 mins at World Cup 2018, moved to France when he was 2 years old) and Samuel Umtiti (also moved to France when he was 2 years old). The rest were born in France (actually Lemar was born in Guadeloupe which is still considered part of France).
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Re: 2018 FIFA World Cup Russia

Postby Dumbledore7 » Tue Jul 17, 2018 12:11 pm

The nationality argument wouldn't have anywhere near as much substance as it does had biology not decided to have skin colour as one of the physical manifestations of DNA.

Literally, if the difference had only been your hair or eye colours, or even your physique, no one would speak about any bloodline / birth bullshit. On the flip side, matches between an Asian team and African team wouldn't be anywhere near as, erm, "refreshing" or "beatiful" to some impulsive, shallow, supremacist white idiots.
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Re: 2018 FIFA World Cup Russia

Postby ramsej84 » Tue Jul 17, 2018 12:16 pm

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ramsej84 wrote:Not to go into polemics, but some of the French play were not born in France...

Yes, specifically Steve Mandanda (0 mins at World Cup 2018, moved to France when he was 2 years old) and Samuel Umtiti (also moved to France when he was 2 years old). The rest were born in France (actually Lemar was born in Guadeloupe which is still considered part of France).
Mandanda played vs Peru
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Re: 2018 FIFA World Cup Russia

Postby ramsej84 » Tue Jul 17, 2018 12:20 pm

I would like to find a comment against any
African team participating in Russia 2018...


Let me speak on my behalf...

I would have loved to see All African teams progress...

I Actually like them (have been doing so since Cameroon in ita '90)

(The only one I don't really like is Ivory coast...cause they remind me of Kalou and Drogba)
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Re: 2018 FIFA World Cup Russia

Postby ramsej84 » Tue Jul 17, 2018 12:25 pm

ramsej84 wrote:
YlonenXabi wrote:Germany, Spain and France 8)
France are good but they are not a team, same as England and Belgium

IMO
Spain Germany
Argentina Brazil are the firm favorites
Just behind them the teams I mentioned

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Jeez one of my first comments in this thread...

I was spot on...yes totally the opposite...

In there I mentioned three semi finalists
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Re: 2018 FIFA World Cup Russia

Postby Dumbledore7 » Tue Jul 17, 2018 12:26 pm

For the record ramsej84, I guarantee no one here thinks that you dislike Africans.
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