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America USA · by **America USA** » Sun Jun 03, 2018 10:43 pm

PunkCapitalist wrote:
America USA wrote:
PunkCapitalist wrote:Will see about that...

Whom are you replying to? And what will we see?
To the whole "Germany < Brazil" zeitgeist. Will see if Brazil is indeed so fantastic as people seem to think.

From what I’ve seen Tite has Brasil playing a compressing style of high press. It needs a lot of energy to play that way for 90 Minutes but Brazilians apparently have the stamina for that. They did the same thing against Germany in March and today against Croatia. Germans and Croatia were playing out from the back but as soon as the Germans/Croatians tried to pass forward and enter Brazil’s half at least three Brazilians were in the face of the German/Croatian player who was receiving the ball and ganged up on him to recover possession.That kind of defending pressing without the ball is very effective. We saw yesterday how Austria made the Germans look like amateurs when they started pressing super high in the second half.

To beat that compressed style pressing you need highly technical players or lethal forwards who have genuine quality. Spain and France have those attributes so I can see those two defeating Brazil. Germany currently don’t have the tools to beat the style Tite has Brasil playing.

In an ideal world, Germany will be facing Spain in one semifinal and Brasil vs France in the other semifinal. If the Germans can play at their best then they can beat Spain and hopefully France will beat Brazil in the other semifinal.

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ramsej84 wrote:On fifa.com ... my pred is Bra v Spain final...
Bra beating France in the s/f while in the other Spain beat Germany.

Winners : Brazil

Traitor!

Seriously though. Germany vs Spain should be 50-50 but if Germany play at their best then they can beat Spain.

FCBayernMunchen · by **FCBayernMunchen** » Sun Jun 03, 2018 11:03 pm

ramsej84 wrote: how dare we forget the three lions , her Majesty's soldiers?

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PunkCapitalist · by **PunkCapitalist** » Sun Jun 03, 2018 11:12 pm

America USA wrote:
PunkCapitalist wrote:
America USA wrote:
PunkCapitalist"]Will see about that...

Whom are you replying to? And what will we see?
To the whole "Germany < Brazil" zeitgeist. Will see if Brazil is indeed so fantastic as people seem to think.

From what I’ve seen Tite has Brasil playing a compressing style of high press. It needs a lot of energy to play that way for 90 Minutes but Brazilians apparently have the stamina for that. They did the same thing against Germany in March and today against Croatia. Germans and Croatia were playing out from the back but as soon as the Germans/Croatians tried to pass forward and enter Brazil’s half at least three Brazilians were in the face of the German/Croatian player who was receiving the ball and ganged up on him to recover possession.That kind of defending pressing without the ball is very effective. We saw yesterday how Austria made the Germans look like amateurs when they started pressing super high in the second half.

To beat that compressed style pressing you need highly technical players or lethal forwards who have genuine quality. Spain and France have those attributes so I can see those two defeating Brazil. Germany currently don’t have the tools to beat the style Tite has Brasil playing.

In an ideal world, Germany will be facing Spain in one semifinal and Brasil vs France in the other semifinal. If the Germans can play at their best then they can beat Spain and hopefully France will beat Brazil in the other semifinal.

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[quote="ramsej84 wrote:On fifa.com ... my pred is Bra v Spain final...
Bra beating France in the s/f while in the other Spain beat Germany.

Winners : Brazil

Traitor!

Seriously though. Germany vs Spain should be 50-50 but if Germany play at their best then they can beat Spain.[/quote]Germany has the single most technical backline and midfield in the world, they must certainly can beat whoever's press.

People also overrate fancyness a lot. The latest 2 WC winners are devoid of speedy fancy dribblers on top, and mostly rely on intelligent passing.

IMO, Brazil and France are strong, but overrated. I would pay no attention to Germany's current form. Underperforming in friendlies is basically a German trademark. They are the clear favorites for me, specially if Reus and Müller play upfront. Even more if Neuer is at the back.

The only relevant attacker as good as Müller and Reus is Neymar, but Germany have two while Brazil has one.

Also, even if many underated Löw so much, he is the best NT coach around.

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nm462272 · by **nm462272** » Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:45 pm

agreed, we should all know by now that you cannot judge Germany based on friendlies - they are a true tournament team. i don't think they're as strong as 2014, but they now how to play cohesively, not relying on individual players for sparks of magic. Case in point, Sane was left off the final squad.

ramsej84 · by **ramsej84** » Mon Jun 04, 2018 10:43 pm

How many of you heard or read the story about Tunisia's preparations for the World Cup?

Their keeper faked an inj (in two separate games) at the beginning of the second half in order to give some mins in which his teammates would be able to eat something (dates) as it is Ramadan

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MUTU · by **MUTU** » Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:24 am

ramsej84 wrote:How many of you heard or read the story about Tunisia's preparations for the World Cup?

Their keeper faked an inj (in two separate games) at the beginning of the second half in order to give some mins in which his teammates would be able to eat something (dates) as it is Ramadan

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Why not in half time itself then?

FCBayernMunchen · by **FCBayernMunchen** » Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:53 am

MUTU wrote:
ramsej84 wrote:How many of you heard or read the story about Tunisia's preparations for the World Cup?

Their keeper faked an inj (in two separate games) at the beginning of the second half in order to give some mins in which his teammates would be able to eat something (dates) as it is Ramadan

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Why not in half time itself then?

Not yet sundown?

MUTU · by **MUTU** » Tue Jun 05, 2018 10:02 am

FCBayernMunchen wrote:
MUTU wrote:
ramsej84 wrote:How many of you heard or read the story about Tunisia's preparations for the World Cup?

Their keeper faked an inj (in two separate games) at the beginning of the second half in order to give some mins in which his teammates would be able to eat something (dates) as it is Ramadan

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Why not in half time itself then?

Not yet sundown?

ramsej84 · by **ramsej84** » Tue Jun 05, 2018 10:13 am

Exactly... that's why.
Luckily for all Muslims Ramadan ends on June 14 exactly on matchday one...
Ooops poor Saudi Arabia

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FCBayernMunchen · by **FCBayernMunchen** » Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:29 am

ramsej84 wrote:Exactly... that's why.
Luckily for all Muslims Ramadan ends on June 14 exactly on matchday one...
Ooops poor Saudi Arabia

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With all due respect, and I have great respect for Muslims because I would never manage to do that for 30 whole days (I think it's 30 at least), but this should have no place in football.

For example, it was reported that Salah did not break his fast for the CL final. If I were Liverpool's owner/coach I would be furious. They are paid millions and through fasting it is not possible for them to give back 100%, in one of the most important games in the club's history.

America USA · by **America USA** » Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:41 am

FCBayernMunchen wrote:
ramsej84 wrote:Exactly... that's why.
Luckily for all Muslims Ramadan ends on June 14 exactly on matchday one...
Ooops poor Saudi Arabia

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With all due respect, and I have great respect for Muslims because I would never manage to do that for 30 whole days (I think it's 30 at least), but this should have no place in football.

For example, it was reported that Salah did not break his fast for the CL final. If I were Liverpool's owner/coach I would be furious. They are paid millions and through fasting it is not possible for them to give back 100%, in one of the most important games in the club's history.

It’s the devout/fundamental ones who like to torture themselves (and who take religion too far I guess?)

I have an Iranian (Shi’a) colleague who was eating Pizza with us on Friday and she said that if she feels a hunger headache then she usually eats something to get her through. Starving yourself before strenuous physical activity is plain stupidity.

Fénix · by **Fénix** » Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:54 am

Don't you even worry for Muslims and their customs when they don't worry for you and yours at all. :lol:

Once you all figure out that, life is going to be simple for you, believe me.

Dumbledore7 · by **Dumbledore7** » Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:41 pm

FCBayernMunchen wrote:
ramsej84 wrote:Exactly... that's why.
Luckily for all Muslims Ramadan ends on June 14 exactly on matchday one...
Ooops poor Saudi Arabia

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With all due respect, and I have great respect for Muslims because I would never manage to do that for 30 whole days (I think it's 30 at least), but this should have no place in football.

For example, it was reported that Salah did not break his fast for the CL final. If I were Liverpool's owner/coach I would be furious. They are paid millions and through fasting it is not possible for them to give back 100%, in one of the most important games in the club's history.

Salah broke his fast. Mané didn't. Salah walked off crying. Mané scored.

FCBayernMunchen · by **FCBayernMunchen** » Tue Jun 05, 2018 2:05 pm

Dumbledore7 wrote:
FCBayernMunchen wrote:
ramsej84 wrote:Exactly... that's why.
Luckily for all Muslims Ramadan ends on June 14 exactly on matchday one...
Ooops poor Saudi Arabia

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With all due respect, and I have great respect for Muslims because I would never manage to do that for 30 whole days (I think it's 30 at least), but this should have no place in football.

For example, it was reported that Salah did not break his fast for the CL final. If I were Liverpool's owner/coach I would be furious. They are paid millions and through fasting it is not possible for them to give back 100%, in one of the most important games in the club's history.

Salah broke his fast. Mané didn't. Salah walked off crying. Mané scored.

I was under the impression that I read he didn't but maybe I mistook the names.

Still, that's more down to Ramos than Allah or food.

A fasting player will almost certainly not be able to perform at 100% for 90 minutes.

ramsej84 · by **ramsej84** » Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:05 pm

Dumbledore7 wrote:
FCBayernMunchen wrote:
ramsej84 wrote:Exactly... that's why.
Luckily for all Muslims Ramadan ends on June 14 exactly on matchday one...
Ooops poor Saudi Arabia

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With all due respect, and I have great respect for Muslims because I would never manage to do that for 30 whole days (I think it's 30 at least), but this should have no place in football.

For example, it was reported that Salah did not break his fast for the CL final. If I were Liverpool's owner/coach I would be furious. They are paid millions and through fasting it is not possible for them to give back 100%, in one of the most important games in the club's history.

Salah broke his fast. Mané didn't. Salah walked off crying. Mané scored.

Salah prayed on the pitch for everyone to see him... and...
Mane did it in private and scored

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