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Re: Argentine Football

Postby MUTU » Thu Mar 29, 2018 4:19 pm

How incredibly unprofessional football in South America is.

11 October 2008: Kevin Kuranyi is in the stands for a World Cup qualifier, almost 2 years before the World Cup was scheduled, and left the stadium at half time with his team comfortably winning 2-0. He wasn't the team captain. Result: Loew said he would never again nominate him to play for the NT, and he kept this promise.

27 March 2018: A few months before the World Cup, Argentinian captain Messi is watching Spain vs Argentina, with his team losing 6-1 and leaves the stadium. The captain abandons ship. The captain, who was supposed to be the one helping the coach remedy the situation, talk to his teammates, help improve morale etc, abandoned ship. Result: nothing, absolute nothing.

It's basic management that Messi needs to at least be stripped of captaincy. The players need to know that no player, not even Messi, is bigger than the national team. Instead they opt to instill an atmosphere of resentment and lower team spirit. Argentina's chances of lifting the World Cup trophy just took a huge dent, methinks. Team spirit is the single most important factor in tournaments like this, and Germany keep proving it every 4 years (or 2 if you count the Euro), and Argentina managed to make a mess out of it, because they consider Messi untouchable, and he can do whatever the f**k he wants apparently.
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Re: Argentine Football

Postby ramsej84 » Thu Mar 29, 2018 5:39 pm

MUTU wrote:How incredibly unprofessional football in South America is.

11 October 2008: Kevin Kuranyi is in the stands for a World Cup qualifier, almost 2 years before the World Cup was scheduled, and left the stadium at half time with his team comfortably winning 2-0. He wasn't the team captain. Result: Loew said he would never again nominate him to play for the NT, and he kept this promise.

27 March 2018: A few months before the World Cup, Argentinian captain Messi is watching Spain vs Argentina, with his team losing 6-1 and leaves the stadium. The captain abandons ship. The captain, who was supposed to be the one helping the coach remedy the situation, talk to his teammates, help improve morale etc, abandoned ship. Result: nothing, absolute nothing.

It's basic management that Messi needs to at least be stripped of captaincy. The players need to know that no player, not even Messi, is bigger than the national team. Instead they opt to instill an atmosphere of resentment and lower team spirit. Argentina's chances of lifting the World Cup trophy just took a huge dent, methinks. Team spirit is the single most important factor in tournaments like this, and Germany keep proving it every 4 years (or 2 if you count the Euro), and Argentina managed to make a mess out of it, because they consider Messi untouchable, and he can do whatever the f**k he wants apparently.
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Re: Argentine Football

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Tue Aug 14, 2018 8:11 pm

Apparently Messi has retired again
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Re: Argentine Football

Postby tflags » Tue Aug 14, 2018 10:29 pm

MUTU wrote:How incredibly unprofessional football in South America is.

11 October 2008: Kevin Kuranyi is in the stands for a World Cup qualifier, almost 2 years before the World Cup was scheduled, and left the stadium at half time with his team comfortably winning 2-0. He wasn't the team captain. Result: Loew said he would never again nominate him to play for the NT, and he kept this promise.

27 March 2018: A few months before the World Cup, Argentinian captain Messi is watching Spain vs Argentina, with his team losing 6-1 and leaves the stadium. The captain abandons ship. The captain, who was supposed to be the one helping the coach remedy the situation, talk to his teammates, help improve morale etc, abandoned ship. Result: nothing, absolute nothing.

It's basic management that Messi needs to at least be stripped of captaincy. The players need to know that no player, not even Messi, is bigger than the national team. Instead they opt to instill an atmosphere of resentment and lower team spirit. Argentina's chances of lifting the World Cup trophy just took a huge dent, methinks. Team spirit is the single most important factor in tournaments like this, and Germany keep proving it every 4 years (or 2 if you count the Euro), and Argentina managed to make a mess out of it, because they consider Messi untouchable, and he can do whatever the f**k he wants apparently.


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Re: Argentine Football

Postby MUTU » Wed Aug 15, 2018 7:54 am

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MUTU wrote:How incredibly unprofessional football in South America is.

11 October 2008: Kevin Kuranyi is in the stands for a World Cup qualifier, almost 2 years before the World Cup was scheduled, and left the stadium at half time with his team comfortably winning 2-0. He wasn't the team captain. Result: Loew said he would never again nominate him to play for the NT, and he kept this promise.

27 March 2018: A few months before the World Cup, Argentinian captain Messi is watching Spain vs Argentina, with his team losing 6-1 and leaves the stadium. The captain abandons ship. The captain, who was supposed to be the one helping the coach remedy the situation, talk to his teammates, help improve morale etc, abandoned ship. Result: nothing, absolute nothing.

It's basic management that Messi needs to at least be stripped of captaincy. The players need to know that no player, not even Messi, is bigger than the national team. Instead they opt to instill an atmosphere of resentment and lower team spirit. Argentina's chances of lifting the World Cup trophy just took a huge dent, methinks. Team spirit is the single most important factor in tournaments like this, and Germany keep proving it every 4 years (or 2 if you count the Euro), and Argentina managed to make a mess out of it, because they consider Messi untouchable, and he can do whatever the f**k he wants apparently.


Something tells me by the way you are barking at the wrong tree that you have no clue as to what is going on behind closed doors.

And at the end of the day, Argentina failed to meet expectations at the World Cup. I still think Argentina should have showed that no player is bigger than the country and as captain you should not abandon ship.
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