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Re: Julian Brandt

Postby #12 » Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:13 pm

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#12 wrote:I don’t think so...

You mean that at the start of the season, you, #12, Mr Negative, would have predicted we'd have reached the semi-finals (or better)? 8)


I didn’t say that... I just don’t think that I downright excluded it
You never know what lucky draw you might end up with... Doesn’t necessarily mean you’re top 4...
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Re: Julian Brandt

Postby MUTU » Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:16 pm

#12 wrote:
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#12 wrote:I don’t think so...

You mean that at the start of the season, you, #12, Mr Negative, would have predicted we'd have reached the semi-finals (or better)? 8)


I didn’t say that... I just don’t think that I downright excluded it
You never know what lucky draw you might end up with... Doesn’t necessarily mean you’re top 4...

I don't want to scour through your posts to see what and in what sense you may have predicted how well we'd fare in the CL but let's admit that if people were saying at the start of the season that we have a team that could realistically reach the CL semis you'd likely have strongly disagreed, favourable draws or not ;)
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Re: Julian Brandt

Postby #12 » Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:20 pm

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MUTU wrote:[quote="#12"]I don’t think so...

You mean that at the start of the season, you, #12, Mr Negative, would have predicted we'd have reached the semi-finals (or better)? 8)


I didn’t say that... I just don’t think that I downright excluded it
You never know what lucky draw you might end up with... Doesn’t necessarily mean you’re top 4...

I don't want to scour through your posts to see what and in what sense you may have predicted how well we'd fare in the CL but let's admit that if people were saying at the start of the season that we have a team that could realistically reach the CL semis you'd likely have strongly disagreed, favourable draws or not ;)[/quote]

Possibly and probably, yes...
And I‘ve given you reasons for it that somehow still prevail... ;)
I never contested the fact that we could beat slightly above average teams... I say we cannot beat top teams...
Either way, if it suits ya, I probably (let’s not count our chickens...) would have been wrong ;)
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Re: Julian Brandt

Postby Manchu » Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:36 am

I want him yesterday.
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Re: Julian Brandt

Postby Pips » Sun Jun 24, 2018 10:51 am

Me 2, for 12,5 mil. it was bargain, now out of reach.
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Re: Julian Brandt

Postby gumboduncan » Sun Jun 24, 2018 1:21 pm

I bet Rudi Völler is smiling somewhere after Brandt signed a contract extension. If there is a release clause then I bet it's more then 12,5 million he had before.
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Re: Julian Brandt

Postby endrity » Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:58 pm

Well any doubt that he is a significant worse player that Sane should be erased forever.
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Re: Julian Brandt

Postby Coman » Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:36 pm

Told you...
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Re: Julian Brandt

Postby #12 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:32 pm

endrity wrote:Well any doubt that he is a significant worse player that Sane should be erased forever.


Tgat statement can be read two ways - which is yours?
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Re: Julian Brandt

Postby MUTU » Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:34 pm

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endrity wrote:Well any doubt that he is a significant worse player that Sane should be erased forever.


Tgat statement can be read two ways - which is yours?
Given the context only one way.
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Postby #12 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:41 pm

MUTU wrote:
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endrity wrote:Well any doubt that he is a significant worse player that Sane should be erased forever.


Tgat statement can be read two ways - which is yours?
Given the context only one way.


Because? Sané has no chance to show himself due to the favoritism of a coach that cannot form a team out of the assembly with what may well be the highest quality in this tournament?

Again, Brandt had few minutes against tired opponents where he fired two great shots - but was abysmal as the rest in open play...
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Re: Julian Brandt

Postby MUTU » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:08 pm

If you keep repeating it enough, you will eventually start to believe it!
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Re: Julian Brandt

Postby #12 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:25 pm

There’s nothing to believe... He didn’t win a single important duel... He didn’t initiate any good attacks... He has a threatening shot, but he’s about as useful as a winger as Müller...
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Re: Julian Brandt

Postby aterford » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:35 pm

Think your bias is clouding things a bit. You're right that his time has been limited so it's fair to claim he's playing against tired opponents - but he's been amongst Germany's "top half" of performers at worst. I.e. if you took the whole squad that played and separated half into good and half into bad, he'd be in the "good" half. Generally speaking most pundits and such that I've seen have regarded him around a 6.5, 7/10 performer.

On the other hand, Sané has consistently been very, VERY poor playing for Germany.
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Re: Julian Brandt

Postby #12 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:49 pm

aterford wrote:Think your bias is clouding things a bit. You're right that his time has been limited so it's fair to claim he's playing against tired opponents - but he's been amongst Germany's "top half" of performers at worst. I.e. if you took the whole squad that played and separated half into good and half into bad, he'd be in the "good" half. Generally speaking most pundits and such that I've seen have regarded him around a 6.5, 7/10 performer.

On the other hand, Sané has consistently been very, VERY poor playing for Germany.


True, at least the last part... But what exactly does that prove? In a good team, Sané was shit... In a shit team, Brandt is above average... And also, Brandt is not more than an average Bundesliga player... I don’t know how anything of that conclusively proves Brandt is better or equally good... Neither does it disprove it, but I wasn’t claiming it does...

And I'm not biased... I would’ve brought both for lack of alternatives...
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