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Team Coutinho vs Team Müller: Arena

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Who is better?

Thomas Müller
12
48%
Philippe Coutinho
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52%
 
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Re: Team Coutinho vs Team Müller: Arena

Postby DRvad14 » Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:29 pm

bastos80 wrote:Just thought I'd share this:

Coutinho is Bayern's 6th best player in the league (7.04) Müller's 6.67 (14th). Müller beats Coutinho in the 4 CL games overall (7.32 vs 7.01).
However, Coutinho beats Müller in best Bayern 11 per formation (going by rating) in a 4231 (11 games) and loses to him in a 433 and 4141 (4 games).

Maybe that angle is actually interesting for all of the WhoScored lovers here, instead of just looking at the raw ratings, ignoring that Müller played multiple different positions.

ty bsatos , otherwise its headless chicken mucho in bl for last 20 games or otherwise
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Re: Team Coutinho vs Team Müller: Arena

Postby bastos80 » Thu Nov 07, 2019 10:32 pm

DRvad14 wrote:
bastos80 wrote:Just thought I'd share this:

Coutinho is Bayern's 6th best player in the league (7.04) Müller's 6.67 (14th). Müller beats Coutinho in the 4 CL games overall (7.32 vs 7.01).
However, Coutinho beats Müller in best Bayern 11 per formation (going by rating) in a 4231 (11 games) and loses to him in a 433 and 4141 (4 games).

Maybe that angle is actually interesting for all of the WhoScored lovers here, instead of just looking at the raw ratings, ignoring that Müller played multiple different positions.

ty bsatos healess chiken hant doen mcucho in bl for last 20 games or otherwise


I think it's just assumed that the BL is worthless to most people.
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Re: Team Coutinho vs Team Müller: Arena

Postby DRvad14 » Fri Nov 08, 2019 12:25 am

bastos80 wrote:
DRvad14 wrote:
bastos80 wrote:Just thought I'd share this:

Coutinho is Bayern's 6th best player in the league (7.04) Müller's 6.67 (14th). Müller beats Coutinho in the 4 CL games overall (7.32 vs 7.01).
However, Coutinho beats Müller in best Bayern 11 per formation (going by rating) in a 4231 (11 games) and loses to him in a 433 and 4141 (4 games).

Maybe that angle is actually interesting for all of the WhoScored lovers here, instead of just looking at the raw ratings, ignoring that Müller played multiple different positions.

ty bsatos healess chiken hant doen mcucho in bl for last 20 games or otherwise


I think it's just assumed that the BL is worthless to most people.

i had to correct alot:/ but BL ISNT OR WASNT as SIMPLE as such the top two coaches there were bl coaches
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Re: Team Coutinho vs Team Müller: Arena

Postby MUTU » Fri Nov 08, 2019 9:20 am

DRvad14 wrote:
MUTU wrote:
DRvad14 wrote:[quote="MUTU"] fully agree. If Müller was happy with his playing time it would have meant that he was playing more often, and we would probably have had better results ;)


u mean like his bl 20 games in bl or 3 years of cl ? he is lot unproducivtive than your turtle now! enough with must have and could have been
any freaking effing reason i dont have donated yet ????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Unproductive? He's leading our charts in terms of assists, despite limited playing time.

Also, take a look at personnel-f8/team-coutinho-vs-team-mueller-t57817-105.html#p589159


aaww mark u lil turle named muller fried look up his preforeamces in last 20 bl games ( the weakest bl ever ) and cl ( for 3 years ) woulcdcchu : ?[/quote]

By the way, I saw you referred to the current Bundesliga as the weakest ever. I disagree. The Bundesliga is currently ranked 3rd in Europe after La Liga and the Premier League, using UEFA Country Ranking 2020. In 2005 to 2008, the Bundesliga was 5th. In 1967 to 1969 and 1972, the Bundesliga was 6th. In 1964 to 1965, the Bundesliga was 8th. In 1963, Germany was 10th. So yeah, we're far from "the weakest ever".
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Re: Team Coutinho vs Team Müller: Arena

Postby DRvad14 » Fri Nov 08, 2019 2:34 pm

yea but current bundesliga is the weakest Bundesliga doesnt matter what it is ranked arent yolu happy muller performed better when it had quality?
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Re: Team Coutinho vs Team Müller: Arena

Postby MUTU » Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:09 pm

YlonenXabi wrote:Some more facts

Coutinho:
Starts for Brazil
Starts for Bayern


Müller:
Dropped from German NT
Sub for Bayern


:coffee:


This has aged so badly

Better do one for your compatriot Thiago instead ;)
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Re: Team Coutinho vs Team Müller: Arena

Postby DRvad14 » Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:10 pm

u just had to didnt you :P
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Re: Team Coutinho vs Team Müller: Arena

Postby MUTU » Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:26 pm

WhoScored: Mueller 8.5, Coutinho 6.2
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Re: Team Coutinho vs Team Müller: Arena

Postby Dumbledore7 » Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:28 pm

Don’t know what Team Coutinho is going for really. Even at Liverpool, he was always a nothing player with some highlight reel moments.
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Re: Team Coutinho vs Team Müller: Arena

Postby DRvad14 » Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:31 pm

MUTU wrote:WhoScored: Mueller 8.5, Coutinho 6.2

oh stop being a sadist mark :p who cares abt coutinho ,20 bundesliga games without a goal for a player whose prime skill nowadays is playing hide and seek
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Re: Team Coutinho vs Team Müller: Arena

Postby America USA » Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:32 pm

DRvad14 wrote:u just had to didnt you :P

Now Can you guys please stop unnecessarily hating on Thomas so much?

When given a fair chance so far Müller has done better than Coutinho. I don’t have anything against the Brazilian but he has just been average so far despite the previous Coach’s unwavering faith. That missed chance in the 91st minute summed up Coutinho for me.

Thomas on current form has to start over the Brazilian #10. Also, Thomas’ off the ball work and defensive contributions are undisputedly better!

DRvad14 wrote:
MUTU wrote:WhoScored: Mueller 8.5, Coutinho 6.2

oh stop being a sadist mark :p who cares abt coutinho ,20 bundesliga games without a goal for a player whose prime skill nowadays is playing hide and seek

Also Müller assisted two goals today and was involved so much in our attacking play. You and some other guys here are sounding like whiny haters who’d rather see Bayern lose than do well with Müller.

So far in the Coutinho vs Müller debate it is very clear from on field performances that the latter has to start over the former.
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Re: Team Coutinho vs Team Müller: Arena

Postby DRvad14 » Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:38 pm

America USA wrote:
DRvad14 wrote:u just had to didnt you :P

Now Can you guys please stop unnecessarily hating on Thomas so much?

When given a fair chance so far Müller has done better than Coutinho. I don’t have anything against the Brazilian but he has just been average so far despite the previous Coach’s unwavering faith. That missed chance in the 91st minute summed up Coutinho for me.

Thomas on current form has to start over the Brazilian #10. Also, Thomas’ off the ball work and defensive contributions are undisputedly better!

DRvad14 wrote:
MUTU wrote:WhoScored: Mueller 8.5, Coutinho 6.2

oh stop being a sadist mark :p who cares abt coutinho ,20 bundesliga games without a goal for a player whose prime skill nowadays is playing hide and seek

Also Müller assisted two goals today and was involved so much in our attacking play. You and some other guys here are sounding like whiny haters who’d rather see Bayern lose than do well with Müller.


So far in the Coutinho vs Müller debate it is very clear from on field performances that the latter has to start over the former.
fair he has been better than that Coutinho thats say much you know ? and no iam happy not to see leaving him fcb ever but iam perfectly happy to be " hater" as you say .

had to edit the quoting thingy
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Re: Team Coutinho vs Team Müller: Arena

Postby #12 » Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:49 pm

America USA wrote:
DRvad14 wrote:u just had to didnt you :P

Now Can you guys please stop unnecessarily hating on Thomas so much?

When given a fair chance so far Müller has done better than Coutinho. I don’t have anything against the Brazilian but he has just been average so far despite the previous Coach’s unwavering faith. That missed chance in the 91st minute summed up Coutinho for me.

Thomas on current form has to start over the Brazilian #10. Also, Thomas’ off the ball work and defensive contributions are undisputedly better!

DRvad14 wrote:
MUTU wrote:WhoScored: Mueller 8.5, Coutinho 6.2

oh stop being a sadist mark :p who cares abt coutinho ,20 bundesliga games without a goal for a player whose prime skill nowadays is playing hide and seek

Also Müller assisted two goals today and was involved so much in our attacking play. You and some other guys here are sounding like whiny haters who’d rather see Bayern lose than do well with Müller.

So far in the Coutinho vs Müller debate it is very clear from on field performances that the latter has to start over the former.


He also put in great defensive effort
- Rangnick or ten Hag in!
- Bring a DM, a winger (Sané) and Havertz!
- Get a REAL sports director (Rangnick?)!
- Keep Hoeness and Rummenigge far away from the team!
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Re: Team Coutinho vs Team Müller: Arena

Postby bastos80 » Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:36 pm

Happy for Müller. Now if Coutinho would start picking up form aswell we might be in for some surprises in the CL aswell.
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Re: Team Coutinho vs Team Müller: Arena

Postby aaaaaa » Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:56 am

dont know what you guys were watching but Muller is where balls go to die
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