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Re: Renato Sanches [Renato Júnior Luz Sanches]

Postby Pelin » Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:27 pm

Sanches needs 12-13 games in a row to regain his confidence and an environment he can develop with regular playing time.

A game won't chance anything, we need to show patience to him.
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Re: Renato Sanches [Renato Júnior Luz Sanches]

Postby endrity » Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:39 pm

^I don't know how much you've seen him play, but he seems to struggle with basic abilities which players at this level shouldn't. A player out of confidence should be making sideways and backward passes, but shouldn't struggle with basic ability to control the ball.

He literally seems like a player that started playing football about two years ago.
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Re: Renato Sanches [Renato Júnior Luz Sanches]

Postby Pelin » Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:44 pm

we can't rate a player based on only one game. He did well for Bayern vs Darmstadt and A.Madrid. Dİd you see his assist for U21? it was class. a player who can't control the ball can't make an assist like that. it was pure class.
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Re: Renato Sanches [Renato Júnior Luz Sanches]

Postby aterford » Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:51 pm

I don't think he was so bad today. I am usually a stats person for sure, but IMO if we didn't see the numbers for today's match we wouldn't be saying it was so bad. Most people tend to have some preconceived expectations of Sanches, likely due to the hype he generated. But I think if any "non hyped" player had the performance Sanches had today, nobody would think anything of it.
For me he looked better than he has in quite some time, he still seems to be trying too hard to "prove himself" which leads to poor decisions, but overall I still think he shows a lot of promise. Has a lot of things to iron out, but in the span of 10 seconds you can see Sanches go from utterly brilliant to head-scratchingly poor. But if he can minimize the mistakes we will have something good.
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Re: Renato Sanches [Renato Júnior Luz Sanches]

Postby tflags » Sun Sep 10, 2017 10:05 pm

Roonzil wrote: Can't see tweet? Click here!

Ouch....


How on Earth did Bayern spend 35 million on a 19 year old with less than a season worth of second tier playing time is beyond me.

Jesus X, Kimmich cost 7 million fcol.
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Re: Renato Sanches [Renato Júnior Luz Sanches]

Postby #12 » Sun Sep 10, 2017 10:15 pm

tflags wrote:
Roonzil wrote: Can't see tweet? Click here!

Ouch....


How on Earth did Bayern spend 35 million on a 19 year old with less than a season worth of second tier playing time is beyond me.

Jesus X, Kimmich cost 7 million fcol.


We had Reschke back then and we've had more fails and other "cheap" players that didn't wirk out...
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Re: Renato Sanches [Renato Júnior Luz Sanches]

Postby endrity » Sun Sep 10, 2017 10:56 pm

Some people want to hold on to hope I guess. I think we'll never see Renato ever pull on the Bayern shirt ever again to be honest.
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Re: Renato Sanches [Renato Júnior Luz Sanches]

Postby Pelin » Sun Sep 10, 2017 11:06 pm

The mistake was not loaning him since, it's quite normal his integration to the team will take time considering he didn't even have one full season with Benfica. in addition, Carlo didn't manage to become his mentor and because of lack of playing time, he lost his confidence. therefore, we can't expect something from him just one game. we must wait at least until the end the of first half of the season for a fair opinion for him.
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Re: Renato Sanches [Renato Júnior Luz Sanches]

Postby MoFattal » Mon Sep 11, 2017 7:36 am

I think it was really unfair from Celement to put him in the starting lineup so soon. He's only been training with them for a few days. He was given a key role with a team he basically has no real chemistry with and in a completely different league and environment. Having said this, I also don't think he will reach the "world-class" status we were expecting to see. The guy has a serious LOT to do.
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Re: Renato Sanches [Renato Júnior Luz Sanches]

Postby IsiahRashad » Mon Sep 11, 2017 8:40 am

MoFattal wrote:I think it was really unfair from Celement to put him in the starting lineup so soon. He's only been training with them for a few days. He was given a key role with a team he basically has no real chemistry with and in a completely different league and environment. Having said this, I also don't think he will reach the "world-class" status we were expecting to see. The guy has a serious LOT to do.
Yes, you're right. He has completed only 2 full training sessions.

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Re: Renato Sanches [Renato Júnior Luz Sanches]

Postby MUTU » Mon Sep 11, 2017 8:40 am

MoFattal wrote:I think it was really unfair from Celement to put him in the starting lineup so soon. He's only been training with them for a few days. He was given a key role with a team he basically has no real chemistry with and in a completely different league and environment. Having said this, I also don't think he will reach the "world-class" status we were expecting to see. The guy has a serious LOT to do.


... especially given how English media just love to butcher players after an underwhelming performance.
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Re: Renato Sanches [Renato Júnior Luz Sanches]

Postby Coman » Mon Sep 11, 2017 8:43 am

Let's give him time ... but I'm pretty sure he will come back the same he was before ... But with luck the fact he played in PL make him have more value and we could sell him.
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Re: Renato Sanches [Renato Júnior Luz Sanches]

Postby sobuj » Mon Sep 11, 2017 11:15 am

tflags wrote:
Roonzil wrote: Can't see tweet? Click here!

Ouch....


How on Earth did Bayern spend 35 million on a 19 year old with less than a season worth of second tier playing time is beyond me.

Jesus X, Kimmich cost 7 million fcol.

This idiots didn't want to spend 50-60 million for WC player like De bruyne, Sane, while spending 30-40 for mediocre Sanches/ tolliso is OK for them, pathetic
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Re: Renato Sanches [Renato Júnior Luz Sanches]

Postby aterford » Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:25 pm

MUTU wrote:
MoFattal wrote:I think it was really unfair from Celement to put him in the starting lineup so soon. He's only been training with them for a few days. He was given a key role with a team he basically has no real chemistry with and in a completely different league and environment. Having said this, I also don't think he will reach the "world-class" status we were expecting to see. The guy has a serious LOT to do.


... especially given how English media just love to butcher non-English players after an underwhelming performance.


Fixed that for you ;)

In seriousness though....If Sanches was a young Englishman they'd be praising his "grit" and "determination" and whatnot rather than criticizing the other stuff.
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Re: Renato Sanches [Renato Júnior Luz Sanches]

Postby MiaSanFCB » Sat Sep 16, 2017 7:37 pm

Much better performance from Renato Sanches today
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