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Re: Renato Sanches [Renato Júnior Luz Sanches]

Postby #12 » Fri May 05, 2017 1:29 pm

Erm... Are we even sure Hoffenheim wants all of our players on loan?!? This is not exactly an Alaba situation...
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Re: Renato Sanches [Renato Júnior Luz Sanches]

Postby PunkCapitalist » Fri May 05, 2017 2:19 pm

#12 wrote:Erm... Are we even sure Hoffenheim wants all of our players on loan?!? This is not exactly an Alaba situation...

Of course we don't know, but Hoffenheim are set to embark on their first CL adventure and don't really have much depth, or even top class starting players for next season. I'm sure Renato could benefit their CL campaign a lot (wouldn't he be the only player they would have that has participated in CL before?).

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Re: Renato Sanches [Renato Júnior Luz Sanches]

Postby #12 » Fri May 05, 2017 2:37 pm

Yeah but I think they're not looking for many loan deals, let alone all from us
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Re: Renato Sanches [Renato Júnior Luz Sanches]

Postby RAJBAYERN » Fri May 05, 2017 2:47 pm

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RAJBAYERN wrote:Is not easy to play in Bayern, specially to be part of the starting XI.

No matter if he get loan, I dont think he playing and training in another team could help him to progress and being better when he return, because at the end, playing for Bayern require to be an Elite World Class player, not only be good and is not easy to reach to the ultimate level.

For me is better to stay and keep training in our system, also there will be many Bundesliga games where he can play, like the next one with Darmstadt.

So... By that logic, Süle and Kimmich are/were not ready to play for Bayern?

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I dont understand why you take that comparison.. For me every player is a different case. Kimmich is a good player but not enough for fill a starting position in Bayern, good for substitution and easy games as Renato. Of course, Kimmich is more prepare than renato, but they have to get better.

In the case of Sule, I think he will be a great defender in Bayern because the talent he showed in his position in Hoffenheim and Olympic Germany team. Hope he can fill properly the third option as CB, so this will allow Javi Martínez to return to the defensive midfielder position.
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Re: Renato Sanches [Renato Júnior Luz Sanches]

Postby IsiahRashad » Sun May 07, 2017 2:18 pm

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Re: Renato Sanches [Renato Júnior Luz Sanches]

Postby JANCKER » Sun May 07, 2017 2:51 pm

These latest posts belong in the transfer thread... Monaco was mentioned too... make it a swap deal for Silva or someone, better than to overpay for Alexis.
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Re: Renato Sanches [Renato Júnior Luz Sanches]

Postby ramsej84 » Sun May 07, 2017 3:12 pm

No way... Juve will do a payback and snatch him from our noses.

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Re: Renato Sanches [Renato Júnior Luz Sanches]

Postby IsiahRashad » Sun May 07, 2017 4:45 pm

JANCKER wrote:These latest posts belong in the transfer thread... Monaco was mentioned too... make it a swap deal for Silva or someone, better than to overpay for Alexis.

Yeah, i know, but I'm posting from the phone and I don't have time to search in transfer threads.

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Re: Renato Sanches [Renato Júnior Luz Sanches]

Postby Hardrade » Sun May 07, 2017 10:13 pm

JANCKER wrote:These latest posts belong in the transfer thread... Monaco was mentioned too... make it a swap deal for Silva or someone, better than to overpay for Alexis.


I guess it is Stockholm's, we are so mistreated by our board that we are starting to think like them: 'Let's just give up on our greatest young potential just so we don't have to splash the cash for once in our lives'
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Re: Renato Sanches [Renato Júnior Luz Sanches]

Postby JANCKER » Sun May 07, 2017 10:19 pm

Hardrade wrote:
JANCKER wrote:These latest posts belong in the transfer thread... Monaco was mentioned too... make it a swap deal for Silva or someone, better than to overpay for Alexis.


I guess it is Stockholm's, we are so mistreated by our board that we are starting to think like them: 'Let's just give up on our greatest young potential just so we don't have to splash the cash for once in our lives'


Is it me who came up with ideas of loaning? It's the media... something stinks about 'our greatest young potential', he isn't living up that hype. IMO Kimmich is our greatest young potential.

I'd swap Sanches for Keita without thinking twice.
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Re: Renato Sanches [Renato Júnior Luz Sanches]

Postby Hardrade » Sun May 07, 2017 10:31 pm

No need to get so defensive, it is a joke after all :) Regarding Sanches, I think he just needs a bit more time on pitch to show his true potential...
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Re: Renato Sanches [Renato Júnior Luz Sanches]

Postby PunkCapitalist » Sun May 07, 2017 10:46 pm

People talk about Kimmich in the same breath as Renato, without realizing that Kimmich is 3 years older.

Renato has much higher potential, but Kimmich is more mature.

Kimmich is already older than Alaba was when he won the triple >.>

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Re: Renato Sanches [Renato Júnior Luz Sanches]

Postby JANCKER » Sun May 07, 2017 11:03 pm

Hopefully he's not another Gotze... I bashed Gotze and I'm bashing Sanches now, let's hope this doesn't end like with Gotze.
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Re: Renato Sanches [Renato Júnior Luz Sanches]

Postby America USA » Mon May 08, 2017 12:41 am

This might not be a popular opinion but I say send Sanches for a couple of seasons to Sevilla or Villarreal. He'll get regular play time over there and these Clubs also offer European football.Spain's football is very technical and they play more matches over there in Spain, 38 league games and two legged cup games. If he can become a good provider in midfield in Spain that'll be a huge boost. Also more games will test him physically and mentally.

Plus it guarantees RS at least four games against the Spanish giants, his experience playing against them when he comes back will come in very handy. As far as adjusting in the BL goes, when he comes back he'll still be only 21 and hopefully an improved, more mature and confident as a player, so if he gets regular play time at Bayern after his loan it shouldn't take him long to get used to the BL (half a season at the most tbf)
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Re: Renato Sanches [Renato Júnior Luz Sanches]

Postby German-American » Mon May 08, 2017 5:59 am

He needs to feel trusted more than anything. When he first played for the NT he didn't start, he showed promise. He showed the coaches whaqt he has, then he started and flurished! We need to do the same
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