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Re: Renato Sanches [Renato Júnior Luz Sanches]

Postby nm462272 » Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:55 pm

Dumbledore7 wrote:Completely agreed - I've always been apprehensive about Goretzka as well. At that role, Tolisso and Renato are better in every single way other than making runs off the ball. At the same time he can be a great luxury player if the team is probably built, not someone you build a team around.


I guess the only positive I can say about Goretzka at this point is that he has a knack for scoring goals on occasion, and he's not really a "net-negative" on the field. Most times I think he's just invisible. That being said, compare that to what you said - Tolisso and Renato are better, and they have shown positive impacts in games, that they can control the midfield, make runs, not just score (which they can do as well, Tolisso especially).
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Re: Renato Sanches [Renato Júnior Luz Sanches]

Postby aterford » Thu Apr 04, 2019 3:09 pm

As I've said elsewhere the problem is simple.
We are out of the UCL and one bad match puts us out of the Pokal (we've seen this nearly happen already). We are in 2nd in the league with no room to spare. And I don't think Kovac is as sure in his job security as others might think. A trophyless season might very well lead to his sacking (if it doesn't, so help me). So I think he simply feels he cannot 'risk' playing Sanches in any matches going forward, because any dropped points in the league from here on out might just put it out of reach.

Couple this with the fact that Kovac approaches every single match like a relegation playoff and there's not a clear path for Sanches at the moment.
I think if Kovac goes, Sanches will perhaps stay, but if Kovac is here next year, Sanches is 100% gone (and probably James too, but that's another story for another day)
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Re: Renato Sanches [Renato Júnior Luz Sanches]

Postby #12 » Thu Apr 04, 2019 5:39 pm

aterford wrote:As I've said elsewhere the problem is simple.
We are out of the UCL and one bad match puts us out of the Pokal (we've seen this nearly happen already). We are in 2nd in the league with no room to spare. And I don't think Kovac is as sure in his job security as others might think. A trophyless season might very well lead to his sacking (if it doesn't, so help me). So I think he simply feels he cannot 'risk' playing Sanches in any matches going forward, because any dropped points in the league from here on out might just put it out of reach.

Couple this with the fact that Kovac approaches every single match like a relegation playoff and there's not a clear path for Sanches at the moment.
I think if Kovac goes, Sanches will perhaps stay, but if Kovac is here next year, Sanches is 100% gone (and probably James too, but that's another story for another day)


It MIGHT... That’s the thing! With two dozen abysmal worse than shit performances there shouldn’t even be a question... Even if he wins a trophy... A double might make us start to question sacking him, nothing else... Question as in still wanting to do it
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Re: Renato Sanches [Renato Júnior Luz Sanches]

Postby envagyokazapad » Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:55 pm

aterford wrote:As I've said elsewhere the problem is simple.
We are out of the UCL and one bad match puts us out of the Pokal (we've seen this nearly happen already). We are in 2nd in the league with no room to spare. And I don't think Kovac is as sure in his job security as others might think. A trophyless season might very well lead to his sacking (if it doesn't, so help me). So I think he simply feels he cannot 'risk' playing Sanches in any matches going forward, because any dropped points in the league from here on out might just put it out of reach.

Couple this with the fact that Kovac approaches every single match like a relegation playoff and there's not a clear path for Sanches at the moment.
I think if Kovac goes, Sanches will perhaps stay, but if Kovac is here next year, Sanches is 100% gone (and probably James too, but that's another story for another day)


That's kind of the story of Kovac here since the beginning...he's been playing the safe mediocre shit in the beginnings as well when we had our worse patches (and looked like he was about to be sacked). He's just not good enough so he's basically always on the edge...it can not work like this.

I'm pretty sure Sanches is out in the summer no matter what, which kinda sucks because I really do not think he's that bad.
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Re: Renato Sanches [Renato Júnior Luz Sanches]

Postby German-American » Sat Apr 06, 2019 7:43 pm

I hope he starts the rest of the season
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Re: Renato Sanches [Renato Júnior Luz Sanches]

Postby JJJ » Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:23 pm

How was he? I didn't watch the game.

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Re: Renato Sanches [Renato Júnior Luz Sanches]

Postby PunkCapitalist » Sat Apr 06, 2019 11:57 pm

MUTU wrote:
IsiahRashad wrote:Renato Sanches: "I'm not happy here, I work a lot but I don't play. I want to play more, maybe at another club. I have to think about it" [Kicker]

He's completely right. First they didn't allow him to move on loan, then he exceeded expectations in the little playing time this season but they still don't play him enough. Not fair on him.
How can he possibly play?... We stacked our MF beyond need. Goretzka was completely unnecessary.

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Re: Renato Sanches [Renato Júnior Luz Sanches]

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Re: Renato Sanches [Renato Júnior Luz Sanches]

Postby Nulis-vienas » Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:06 am

sane(gnabry) felix (dajaku) odoi(davies)

shabani(lockl)

alaba (sanches) will (javi) kimmich(goretzka)

hernandez(pavard) hummels(mai) de ligt(sule)


neuer(fruchtl)

some people need to be leaving already. this is... ok just a dream I know, nothing more. but imo if the club decided to take a big risk and let some ambitious coach take over instead of scared kovac, give him one season to experiment with the youth then next april the team could look sorta like that. all the young guys in this faux lineup are at the age where they should actually be starting to get regular minutes. their talent is not in question. give them time, whoever does not seem like coming close to the needed level over the year can be replaced. 2019 should be a selling year. james, boa, muller, robert, sorry I like them but bye. next year they need 2 new starters instead of youth? ok, this year sales more or less pay for new guys, next year splash €200 no problem. top 4 I'm not worried about, so just 'sacrifice' one season on purpose instead of trying to win but still losing like usual and have zero plan.
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Re: Renato Sanches [Renato Júnior Luz Sanches]

Postby #12 » Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:12 am

Their talent IS in question...

Also, stop it with deLigt already, we don’t WANT world class players!
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Re: Renato Sanches [Renato Júnior Luz Sanches]

Postby Bavarian_Kielbasa » Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:43 am

Nulis-vienas wrote:sane(gnabry) felix (dajaku) odoi(davies)

shabani(lockl)

alaba (sanches) will (javi) kimmich(goretzka)

hernandez(pavard) hummels(mai) de ligt(sule)


neuer(fruchtl)

some people need to be leaving already. this is... ok just a dream I know, nothing more. but imo if the club decided to take a big risk and let some ambitious coach take over instead of scared kovac, give him one season to experiment with the youth then next april the team could look sorta like that. all the young guys in this faux lineup are at the age where they should actually be starting to get regular minutes. their talent is not in question. give them time, whoever does not seem like coming close to the needed level over the year can be replaced. 2019 should be a selling year. james, boa, muller, robert, sorry I like them but bye. next year they need 2 new starters instead of youth? ok, this year sales more or less pay for new guys, next year splash €200 no problem. top 4 I'm not worried about, so just 'sacrifice' one season on purpose instead of trying to win but still losing like usual and have zero plan.

Not a terrible idea. Respect the risk taking.

I personally wouldn't watch. Looks like a random EPL club to me.
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Re: Renato Sanches [Renato Júnior Luz Sanches]

Postby ramsej84 » Sun Apr 21, 2019 2:32 pm

Tbh ... I would give a preference to him rather than Leon...
Leon can wait and I am sure that he won't rebels if he stays a bit on the bench.
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Re: Renato Sanches [Renato Júnior Luz Sanches]

Postby Nulis-vienas » Sun Apr 21, 2019 4:30 pm

Bavarian_Kielbasa wrote:
Nulis-vienas wrote:sane(gnabry) felix (dajaku) odoi(davies)

shabani(lockl)

alaba (sanches) will (javi) kimmich(goretzka)

hernandez(pavard) hummels(mai) de ligt(sule)


neuer(fruchtl)

some people need to be leaving already. this is... ok just a dream I know, nothing more. but imo if the club decided to take a big risk and let some ambitious coach take over instead of scared kovac, give him one season to experiment with the youth then next april the team could look sorta like that. all the young guys in this faux lineup are at the age where they should actually be starting to get regular minutes. their talent is not in question. give them time, whoever does not seem like coming close to the needed level over the year can be replaced. 2019 should be a selling year. james, boa, muller, robert, sorry I like them but bye. next year they need 2 new starters instead of youth? ok, this year sales more or less pay for new guys, next year splash €200 no problem. top 4 I'm not worried about, so just 'sacrifice' one season on purpose instead of trying to win but still losing like usual and have zero plan.

Not a terrible idea. Respect the risk taking.

I personally wouldn't watch. Looks like a random EPL club to me.

wouldn't waych this team or what? you don't wanna see sanefelixodoi rek people?
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Re: Renato Sanches [Renato Júnior Luz Sanches]

Postby #12 » Sun Apr 21, 2019 4:37 pm

Nulis-vienas wrote:
Bavarian_Kielbasa wrote:
Nulis-vienas wrote:sane(gnabry) felix (dajaku) odoi(davies)

shabani(lockl)

alaba (sanches) will (javi) kimmich(goretzka)

hernandez(pavard) hummels(mai) de ligt(sule)


neuer(fruchtl)

some people need to be leaving already. this is... ok just a dream I know, nothing more. but imo if the club decided to take a big risk and let some ambitious coach take over instead of scared kovac, give him one season to experiment with the youth then next april the team could look sorta like that. all the young guys in this faux lineup are at the age where they should actually be starting to get regular minutes. their talent is not in question. give them time, whoever does not seem like coming close to the needed level over the year can be replaced. 2019 should be a selling year. james, boa, muller, robert, sorry I like them but bye. next year they need 2 new starters instead of youth? ok, this year sales more or less pay for new guys, next year splash €200 no problem. top 4 I'm not worried about, so just 'sacrifice' one season on purpose instead of trying to win but still losing like usual and have zero plan.

Not a terrible idea. Respect the risk taking.

I personally wouldn't watch. Looks like a random EPL club to me.

wouldn't waych this team or what? you don't wanna see sanefelixodoi rek people?


Your offense alone costs way more than 200m... To call it delusional would be too much of a compliment...
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Re: Renato Sanches [Renato Júnior Luz Sanches]

Postby Nulis-vienas » Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:56 am

well you're wrong again and did I ask you to call my opinion anything? lol SELL some people and don't worry about someone elses shekels, worry about the team
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