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Re: Hansi Flick [Hans-Dieter Flick]

Postby Awax » Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:55 pm

Flick started off well with his tactical tweaks, especially that aggressive offensive pressing. The problem is that he kept tweaking until it backfired. One of them is the defensive line. We started with a medium-high one, to end up with an ultra high line that got us killed against Leverkusen. I remember reading somewhere Flick pushing the defense line to go higher, saying something like "they shouldn't be afraid to defend higher". We kept defending higher by the game and ultimately started conceding more chances, in a pep/germany 2018 type of way. Add to that, Goretzka's role also got tweaked, pushing him further up the pitch (compared to the dortmund game for example), leaving gigantic holes in midfield.. with a high line, it's a disaster.

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Re: Hansi Flick [Hans-Dieter Flick]

Postby America USA » Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:58 pm

Awax wrote:Flick started off well with his tactical tweaks, especially that aggressive offensive pressing. The problem is that he kept tweaking until it backfired. One of them is the defensive line. We started with a medium-high one, to end up with an ultra high line that got us killed against Leverkusen. I remember reading somewhere Flick pushing the defense line to go higher, saying something like "they shouldn't be afraid to defend higher". We kept defending higher by the game and ultimately started conceding more chances, in a pep/germany 2018 type of way. Add that Goretzka's role also got tweaked, pushing him further up the pitch (compared to the dortmund game) , leaving gigantic holes in midfield.. with a high line, it's a disaster.

Sometimes simple is better, especially if it works.

Well said. Flick doing a Pep by overthinking stuff :?
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Re: Hansi Flick [Hans-Dieter Flick]

Postby Firefox1234 » Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:41 pm

The issue that Flick hasn't solved and what also did Kovac in is the midfield imbalance.
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Re: Hansi Flick [Hans-Dieter Flick]

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Re: Hansi Flick [Hans-Dieter Flick]

Postby zozon » Wed Dec 11, 2019 1:22 pm

Smart.

Now ONLY thing to do is that the players man up and win the games until the winter break.
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Re: Hansi Flick [Hans-Dieter Flick]

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Re: Hansi Flick [Hans-Dieter Flick]

Postby YlonenXabi » Sat Dec 14, 2019 12:25 pm

Good news
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Re: Hansi Flick [Hans-Dieter Flick]

Postby #12 » Sat Dec 14, 2019 3:12 pm

Passable? So 3 points?
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Re: Hansi Flick [Hans-Dieter Flick]

Postby MUTU » Sat Dec 14, 2019 3:16 pm

#12 wrote:Passable? So 3 points?

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Re: Hansi Flick [Hans-Dieter Flick]

Postby #12 » Sat Dec 14, 2019 3:16 pm

MUTU wrote:
#12 wrote:Passable? So 3 points?

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Re: Hansi Flick [Hans-Dieter Flick]

Postby ramsej84 » Sun Dec 15, 2019 2:42 pm

BAYERN, SALIHAMIDZIC: "FLICK? ABBIAMO GIA' DECISO"

Il ds del Bayern Monaco, Hasan Salihamidzic, ha parlato del futuro dell'allenatore Hans-Dieter Flick. "È chiaro che il suo lavoro sia sempre sotto osservazione, vediamo come si atteggia con i giocatori e quali risposte riceve. È chiaro, però, che abbiamo già deciso cosa accadrà in futuro. I calciatori possono esprimere le proprie opinioni e dire che sarebbero propensi ad una conferma dell'allenatore, ma alla fine l'ultima parola spetta allo staff", ha detto.


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Re: Hansi Flick [Hans-Dieter Flick]

Postby Firefox1234 » Wed Dec 18, 2019 11:55 pm

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Re: Hansi Flick [Hans-Dieter Flick]

Postby America USA » Wed Dec 18, 2019 11:58 pm

The really late substitutions have started to annoy me with Flick :evil:
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Re: Hansi Flick [Hans-Dieter Flick]

Postby ramsej84 » Sat Dec 21, 2019 5:23 pm

If he doesn't stay with us he should be the one to replace Loew
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Re: Hansi Flick [Hans-Dieter Flick]

Postby America USA » Sat Dec 21, 2019 6:03 pm

His coaching does seem questionable at times. Today was a good example as was the game against Monchengladbach.

Against BM in the 2nd half when Bayern’s defense especially Boateng were clearly struggling against Pace he took Jerome off and brought on another slow player in Javi instead of putting Kimmich at RB and the pacier Pavard at CB. Plus Monchengladbach were looking to maintain the game at a 100 mph tempo and instead of trying to slow it down and make BM frustrated we played right into their hands and were outplayed for the last 30 minutes.


Today it became clear by the 60th minute that Wolfsburg were too tall and strong in defense and midfield to concede from crosses or long balls but still we kept trying it all game. The only time we opened them up was by quick 1-2 passes in the middle and that’s what made space for Zirkzee. When the commentators and a football nobody like myself could see this then why couldn’t Flick? Poor coaching to keep trying the same tactic when it is clearly not working. Had it not been for that Gnabry-Müller give and go we would have dropped points today and that would probably be that in the BL.

I’m not so impressed with him tbh. I can understand him remain at the helm until the summer due to a lack of superior coaching options but unless he wins the BL and does well in the UCL in the second half of the season in 2020, Bayern should be looking for an upgrade at the managerial position.
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