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Re: Franck Ribéry

Postby ramsej84 » Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:25 pm

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ramsej84 wrote:I have always criticized those who when subbed off showed dissent. Including Ribery .. and Robben....


Try again bastos and #12


You’re still pretty selective... And - as always - bend your own rules for people that suit your agenda...
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Franck Ribéry

Postby #12 » Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:28 pm

Criticizing is not "hate"... Hate is what YOU do instead of criticism when talking about politics
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Re: Franck Ribéry

Postby ramsej84 » Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:30 pm

#12 wrote:Criticizing is not "hate"... Hate is what YOU do instead of criticism when talking about politics
In here I read hate on :
Muller
Robbery
Kovac
Etc



I have no problem with what I do in politics...
Yes I hate the likes of Macron Merkel Juncker and Co...
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Re: Franck Ribéry

Postby #12 » Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:31 pm

Again, you should learn the difference between hate and criticism... I expect a grown man to do so...
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Re: Franck Ribéry

Postby Hardrade » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:06 pm

Why hate Alonso? He might return one day to be in the coaching staff, I’d love to have him around honestly.
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Re: Franck Ribéry

Postby ramsej84 » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:53 pm

Hardrade wrote:Why hate Alonso? He might return one day to be in the coaching staff, I’d love to have him around honestly.
I didn't actually hated him ... but the unnecessary minutes he was given...

The same as many do here to Robbery but at least they gave us something in return...

Xabi only gave us half a season in which he was a sensation...
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Re: Franck Ribéry

Postby Dumbledore7 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:44 am

Sometimes in those nights when I can’t sleep, I like to remind myself that he’s the best winger in Bayern history.

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Re: Franck Ribéry

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:06 pm

Dumbledore7 wrote:Sometimes in those nights when I can’t sleep, I like to remind myself that he’s the best winger in Bayern history.


Second best to me. I consider Robben to be better.
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Re: Franck Ribéry

Postby Dumbledore7 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:20 pm

Ribery and Robben to me are like Messi and Ronaldo. The only difference is the amount of natural-born gift, but enough to make one of them distinctly better.
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Re: Franck Ribéry

Postby bastos80 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:28 pm

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Dumbledore7 wrote:Sometimes in those nights when I can’t sleep, I like to remind myself that he’s the best winger in Bayern history.


Second best to me. I consider Robben to be better.


What set those two apart is that Robben has always been a decisive man in big games. Ribéry not so much.
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Re: Franck Ribéry

Postby PunkCapitalist » Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:12 pm

ramsej84 wrote:
Hardrade wrote:Why hate Alonso? He might return one day to be in the coaching staff, I’d love to have him around honestly.
I didn't actually hated him ... but the unnecessary minutes he was given...

The same as many do here to Robbery but at least they gave us something in return...

Xabi only gave us half a season in which he was a sensation...
Xabi was not anywhere near as bad when he left as Robbery have been for 2 years. Up until his last game, Xabi could offer absolutely top ball distribution. Robbery (specially Ribery) haven't been offering ANYTHING for at least 2 years. Yes, they scored some goals... But I'm pretty some random young winger (like Gnabry) could have also scored as many or more.

Also Xabi's minutes were not the consequence of him crying to the bosses, misbehaving and deposing coaches every time he got benched, they were the consequence of his coaches having a very high (albeit perhaps exaggerated) regard for his distributions skills.

So, Xabi's hate is unjustified. Ribery OTOH is making his best effort to ruin his legacy at Bayern. Robben has been behaving better, but still overstayed his time by several years.

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Re: Franck Ribéry

Postby bastos80 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:13 pm

PunkCapitalist wrote:
ramsej84 wrote:
Hardrade wrote:Why hate Alonso? He might return one day to be in the coaching staff, I’d love to have him around honestly.
I didn't actually hated him ... but the unnecessary minutes he was given...

The same as many do here to Robbery but at least they gave us something in return...

Xabi only gave us half a season in which he was a sensation...
Xabi was not anywhere near as bad when he left as Robbery have been for 2 years. Up until his last game, Xabi could offer absolutely top ball distribution. Robbery (specially Ribery) haven't been offering ANYTHING for at least 2 years. Yes, they scored some goals... But I'm pretty some random young winger (like Gnabry) could have also scored as many or more.

Also Xabi's minutes were not the consequence of him crying to the bosses, misbehaving and deposing coaches every time he got benched, they were the consequence of his coaches having a very high (albeit perhaps exaggerated) regard for his distributions skills.

So, Xabi's hate is unjustified. Ribery OTOH is making his best effort to ruin his legacy at Bayern. Robben has been behaving better, but still overstayed his time by several years.

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What I'd give to have Xabi in this team... Yeah, he probably played too much, but that was mainly due to not really having another alternative.
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Re: Franck Ribéry

Postby PunkCapitalist » Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:13 pm

bastos80 wrote:
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Dumbledore7 wrote:Sometimes in those nights when I can’t sleep, I like to remind myself that he’s the best winger in Bayern history.


Second best to me. I consider Robben to be better.


What set those two apart is that Robben has always been a decisive man in big games. Ribéry not so much.
At a point in time, Robben was decisive in big games, but in a very negative way...

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Re: Franck Ribéry

Postby bastos80 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:15 pm

PunkCapitalist wrote:
bastos80 wrote:Second best to me. I consider Robben to be better.


What set those two apart is that Robben has always been a decisive man in big games. Ribéry not so much.
At a point in time, Robben was decisive in big games, but in a very negative way...

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Yes, that's why I left it ambiguous :lol:
Still, only speaks for him. Penalty misses are only human... Same with that miss against Casillas in the WC final. You have to get yourself into a position like that in the first place.
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Re: Franck Ribéry

Postby PunkCapitalist » Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:17 pm

bastos80 wrote:
PunkCapitalist wrote:
ramsej84 wrote:[quote="Hardrade"]Why hate Alonso? He might return one day to be in the coaching staff, I’d love to have him around honestly.
I didn't actually hated him ... but the unnecessary minutes he was given...

The same as many do here to Robbery but at least they gave us something in return...

Xabi only gave us half a season in which he was a sensation...
Xabi was not anywhere near as bad when he left as Robbery have been for 2 years. Up until his last game, Xabi could offer absolutely top ball distribution. Robbery (specially Ribery) haven't been offering ANYTHING for at least 2 years. Yes, they scored some goals... But I'm pretty some random young winger (like Gnabry) could have also scored as many or more.

Also Xabi's minutes were not the consequence of him crying to the bosses, misbehaving and deposing coaches every time he got benched, they were the consequence of his coaches having a very high (albeit perhaps exaggerated) regard for his distributions skills.

So, Xabi's hate is unjustified. Ribery OTOH is making his best effort to ruin his legacy at Bayern. Robben has been behaving better, but still overstayed his time by several years.

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What I'd give to have Xabi in this team... Yeah, he probably played too much, but that was mainly due to not really having another alternative.[/quote]IMO Xabi would have been a great Thiago backup. In fact, during Pep's last season ans Ancelotti's first, I think Thiago should have taken the bulk of Xabi's minutes in the regista role. I do think both Pep and Ancelotti overplayed in those 2 seasons.

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