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Re: Alphonso Davies [Alphonso Boyle Davies]

Postby YlonenXabi » Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:40 pm

He is still too young, but it seemed that his 1v1 and decision making against tight defenses were not very convincing

However playing as left back not only we will benefit from his insane speed and acceleration, he will also find way more space for long runs and overlaps
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Re: Alphonso Davies [Alphonso Boyle Davies]

Postby zozon » Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:55 pm

YlonenXabi wrote:He is still too young, but it seemed that his 1v1 and decision making against tight defenses were not very convincing


Are you joking? Phillip Lahm WASNT even NEAR as convincing at this guy's age. Alaba also.

Give it a break, Jesus.
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Re: Alphonso Davies [Alphonso Boyle Davies]

Postby YlonenXabi » Fri Jan 03, 2020 12:01 am

Oh excuse me, I totally forgot that time when Lahm suceeded as winger playing for Bayern :roll:


I was talking about beating defenders and making right decisions in the final third especially against packed defenses. That's why he hasn't been convincing as winger

But by playing LB he will find more space whenever he joins attack and could be deadly creating 2v1 situations.

He just needs to improve his defense and positioning
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Re: Alphonso Davies [Alphonso Boyle Davies]

Postby #12 » Fri Jan 03, 2020 2:24 am

We seem to be the only club that regularly buys players for specific positions just to play them somewhere else in the end...
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Re: Alphonso Davies [Alphonso Boyle Davies]

Postby Fénix » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:45 am

#12 wrote:We seem to be the only club that regularly buys players for specific positions just to play them somewhere else in the end...

This is so true, especially in the last 6-7 years. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Instead of buying players for the right positions, positions we desperately need to cover and REcover and in the end playing those players there once and for all(or keep searching for them if the new ones aren't good enough), we rather all over again deploy players from other positions somewhere else and then again we reject to say they are that and that thereby keeping holes on 4 positions open and extremely vulnerable because then again and again we won't increase depth for those positions(CB, RB, LB and DM positions) in signing backup crew. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Kimmich is the best example. He was bought to be our midfielder(#6 and #8), but instead of that, he was used as CB due to lack of depth in 2015/2016. Then under Ancelotti he was used as #8 in 2016/2017, but from 2017/2018 we decided to convert him into a RB even though the player wanted and still wants to play in the midfield, what's more important, he has never stopped seeing himself midfielder player and we knew what's going to happen once Rafinha retires or leaves us.

The same was happening with Alaba, first with "I don't want to be full-back because my place is in midfield"(later he accepted his new position just as his natural position), then in 2014/2015 and 2015/2016 with CB crap(no backup players) and now it is happening again with him. :roll: We are constantly lacking 4 players in our season's squad because of this constant "chess castling" in football or having useless players who once were giga players(Boateng and Martínez).
Before 2013/2014 season, that only served in extreme cases and desperate situations, but ever since 2013/2014 with Lahm in midfield to nowadays, this became a standard and also one of the main reasons we declined and failed in so many seasons and practically always used injuries and yellow card suspensions as excuses.

Last 6-7 weeks have reminded me of 2010/2011 season when Van Gaal's Bayern was so thin and skinny on the bench that in the end he was sacked and we almost finished the season 4th and back then almost without the CL football in 2011/2012, but Jonker secured 3rd place.
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Re: Alphonso Davies [Alphonso Boyle Davies]

Postby DRvad14 » Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:01 pm

An In-Depth Analysis of Alphonso Davies’ Performances and Suitability at Left-Back
Whether you’re a committed or casual follower of Canadian soccer, you will likely have heard of the phenom Alphonso Davies’ meteoric rise in recent months with Bayern Munich, one of the biggest football clubs in the world. The Canadian, who is a left-winger by trade, has been converted to left-back by the German giants and hasn’t looked back since, making the position his own from late-October onwards as Bayern deal with injuries to some key defenders.

While many expected Davies to be simply an adequate stop-gap solution at left-back, he has become one of the standout performers for Bayern Munich ever since he was given his chance by former manager Niko Kovac. Now, Davies is seen as the long-term solution at left-back at the Allianz Arena.

Purists might not like the idea of Canada’s greatest ever attacking talent being played as a defender at club level, but the fact that he is turning so many heads as a 19-year-old is something to celebrate regardless. Plus, Davies might also end up becoming a forward again later in his career, who knows?

While assessing his performances at left-back over the last few months, I was able to spot many intriguing aspects of Alphonso Davies’ role for Bayern:

The tale of two halves:
No, by “the tale of two halves” I do not mean the first half of play vs the second half – I’m talking about the opposition half vs your own half of the pitch.

When in his own half, Davies operates in a far different vertical zone of the pitch than he does when in the opposition half. This is noticeable especially when Bayern are playing out from the back and eventually progress the ball into the final third.

When in his own half, usually when Bayern are playing out from the back, Davies will hug the left touchline, and offer himself up as an option for his centre-backs or goalkeeper. Davies’ quality on the ball often means that he is the player that is progressing the ball from defence to attack, not the midfielders. His impact in the buildup is as big as anyone for Bayern.

On the other hand, when Bayern have advanced the ball into the final third, you will see Davies tuck into the half-space and play almost as an interior midfielder. This means he does not act like a traditional full-back, who would overlap the left-winger and look for space out wide and in behind.While Bayern do operate with right-footed players on the left-wing, which often means there is more space for the full-back to stay wide left, the fact that Bayern prefer to attack through the right-wing and central areas means that Davies’ job is to offer himself up as an option closer to the middle of the pitch (which is also closer to the right side of the pitch, of course) as the more attacking players like Coutinho and Gnabry do their jobs in-and-around the box.

He essentially offers protection should his teammates lose the ball further up the pitch, and also gives them a simple backwards passing option should things get sloppy in the box.
Why Davies is more suited to left-back than left-wing for Bayern Munich:
Bayern Munich dictates the play in most of their matches – obviously. For Alphonso Davies, this means that his quality on the ball actually matters more than his quality in defending, despite being played in a defensive position.

Over the course of the last few years, we have seen many forwards and midfielders converted into full-backs at the bigger European clubs, as the position becomes more and more influential in an attacking sense (Delph and Zinchenko at Man City, Roberto at Barcelona, Maitland-Niles at Arsenal, Joshua Kimmich also at Bayern, etc).

The most important defensive quality for a full-back in at a big team is not their natural ability to defend, but their ability to transition from attack to defence in a swift and intelligent manner. Davies does not have much natural defensive ability, but his speed and his athleticism mean that his work in defensive transition is top-notch, which is why he is adequate enough defensively to play left-back at a big club.However, this is why it’s not exactly ideal for him to be playing left-back for the Canadian men’s national team in bigger fixtures. Herdman’s team likely won’t be dictating the play, and natural defensive ability will matter much more. Of course, it’s possible that Davies develops this quality over time.

Another reason why I believe Davies is more suited to left-back than left-wing for Bayern is that the position is more in line with his technical and physical qualities.

Davies is a powerful runner, and he is at his best when he is running into space, using his athleticism, speed, and skill to breeze past opponents. However, if you’re playing left-wing for a club like Bayern Munich, who dominate most of their matches and are forced to ‘unlock’ pesky defences who sit back against them, you don’t have much space to drive into.

When you’re a winger at a club like this, having quick feet in tight spaces and being able to beat a man 1v1 from a still position are the most crucial qualities, and Davies doesn’t quite have them. Therefore, he likely wouldn’t be as effective as a forward for Bayern.

If Davies ever plays for a counter-attacking side in his career, then a switch to left-wing would make far more sense, but based on the club he is currently at, he simply does not suit it.

When Davies is at left-back, he has much more space ahead of him to drive into, and we saw him do exactly that in late-December against Freiburg when he assisted Robert Lewandowski:The above assist also displays a recurring pattern in Bayern’s play, which is specifically designed to spring Davies into space. Davies will take up the ball wide left, pass it vertically along the ground to the left-winger in front of him, and at the moment he releases the pass, Davies will burst forward in anticipation of the return pass, and drive into space once he gets it back. This is a drawn-up pattern straight from the training ground which allows Bayern to utilize the best quality in Davies’ game.

If you watch Bayern Munich play, you will see this pattern repeatedly – and it works.

Alphonso Davies’ future in the game looks much brighter after these last few months.
When Alphonso Davies made the move to Bayern Munich from Vancouver Whitecaps just over 1 year ago, many were sceptical over whether he would ever be good enough to earn regular minutes for the German giants. While left-back may not be the position where we envisaged his future, the fact that he is playing this well and this regularly for Bayern is nothing but positive, as Canadian soccer looks to hit a new level in the 2020s.

Alphonso Davies has displayed an acute understanding of the tactical and positional requirements of playing left-back, and he might even make it difficult for regular Bayern left-back David Alaba to get his spot back once their centre-back core is healthier (Alaba has been filling in at centre-back). His ability to burst into space suits the position rather well, and he has the quality to act as both a traditional full-back, who operates out wide and overlaps, or an inverted full-back, who drops towards the centre of the pitch.

Of course, Davies’ defensive qualities need a bit of improvement, but all-in-all, he is blossoming for one of the biggest football clubs in the world at the raw age of 19, and for that alone, he deserves all the praise coming his way. As we move forward into 2020, keep an eye out for how Davies challenges Alaba for the starting left-back role, and don’t be surprised if he comes out on top.
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Re: Alphonso Davies [Alphonso Boyle Davies]

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Mon Jan 06, 2020 6:31 pm

zozon wrote:Are you joking? Phillip Lahm WASNT even NEAR as convincing at this guy's age. Alaba also.

That means nothing.
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Re: Alphonso Davies [Alphonso Boyle Davies]

Postby aterford » Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:36 pm

Transfermarkt's top talents to watch in 2020: [source]


It's a photo gallery and a bit slow loading. Here's the list:

1. Alphonso Davies, Bayern
2. Phil Foden, City
3. Ozan Kabak, Schalke
4. Mason Greenwood, United
5. Calvin Stengs, AZ Alkmaar
6. Sandro Tonali, Brescia
7. Ibrahima Konate, Leipzig
8. Dominik Szoboszlai, Salzburg
9. Yari Verschaeren, Anderlecht
10. Dan-Axel Zagadou, BVB
11. Tete, Shakhtar
12. Zinho Vanheusden, Standard Liege
13. Francisco Trincao, Braga
14. Boukary Soumare, Lille
15. Moussa Diaby, Leverkusen
16. Bukayo Saka, Arsenal
17. Arnor Sigurdsson, CSKA Moscow
18. Strahinja Pavlovic, Partizan
19. Sebastiano Esposito, Inter
20. Eric Garcia, Man City
21. Abdulkadir Omur, Trabzonspor
22. Rafael Leao, Milan
23. Troy Parrott, Spurs
24. Bryan Gil, Sevilla
25. Dusan Vlahovic, Fiorentina
26. Panagiotos Retsos, Leverkusen
27. Rabbi Matondo, Schalke
28. Dennis Man, Steaua
29. Maarten Vandevoordt, Genk
30. Takefusa Kubo, RM
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Re: Alphonso Davies [Alphonso Boyle Davies]

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Sat Jan 11, 2020 5:29 pm

Great goal by Davies

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Re: Alphonso Davies [Alphonso Boyle Davies]

Postby ramsej84 » Sat Jan 11, 2020 5:58 pm

FCBayernMunchen wrote:Great goal by Davies

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Re: Alphonso Davies [Alphonso Boyle Davies]

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Re: Alphonso Davies [Alphonso Boyle Davies]

Postby DRvad14 » Sun Jan 26, 2020 4:19 pm

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Re: Alphonso Davies [Alphonso Boyle Davies]

Postby Firefox1234 » Tue Jan 28, 2020 12:14 am

Welcome to the Allianz Arena....

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Alphonso Davies [Alphonso Boyle Davies]

Postby #12 » Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:40 pm



Dat Müller one
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Re: Alphonso Davies [Alphonso Boyle Davies]

Postby aterford » Thu Jan 30, 2020 4:58 pm

Can't see tweet? Click here!

This is kind of insane.

Quite literally playing at world-class level in nearly every category at the moment...Just needs to work on giving the ball away less.

(Edited to include correct tweet)
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