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Re: World News Thread

Postby Paphlagonian » Fri Jan 26, 2018 8:33 pm

ramsej84 wrote:tbh before some clients interrupted me I was wiking on Kurds to learn more about them and why the Turks are not friends with them.
IMO on such issues each part have a point but unfortunately humans rarely manage to find a way in between!


That would be the case if millions of Kurds actually didn't live in peace in Turkey. Our current prime minister Binali Yıldırım is Kurdish, our head of intelligence (Hakan Fidan) is Kurdish, our ex president Özal was Kurdish. There are 15 million (give or take) Kurds in Turkey and only 5 million people voted for HDP (Kurdish party) at it's climax not only this but HDP doesn't seek independence only a minority in that party actually supports PKK and most of them actually seek autonomy or more privileges for Kurds but as you can see Kurds already got rights up to the being a president in this country. We acknowledge the fact there were some serious right problems in the past most notably 80s and early 90s . But past is gone and today a Kurd got rights as much as the next Turk. They even got state funded TRT Kurdi channel which broadcasts only in Kurdish.
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Re: World News Thread

Postby ramsej84 » Sat Jan 27, 2018 8:24 pm

Great job the US did in Afghanistan...!
A second deadly attack in Kabul by the Talibans...

In other news
The US is against a gas pipeline from Russia to Germany.
They say this will make Europe dependent on Russia.

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Re: World News Thread

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Sun Jan 28, 2018 11:01 am

ramsej84 wrote:In other news
The US is against a gas pipeline from Russia to Germany.
They say this will make Europe dependent on Russia.

It's not like it'll be the only source for Germany, let alone the rest of Europe.

Btw, do you guys consider Russia European or not? Socially speaking not geographically, and historically speaking, not necessarily based on current values. I'd say the ties between Europe and Russia are closer than between Europe and the US. The Tsars were related to the European royal families, after all.
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Re: World News Thread

Postby Element » Sun Jan 28, 2018 11:05 am

FCBayernMunchen wrote:Btw, do you guys consider Russia European or not? Socially speaking not geographically, and historically speaking, not necessarily based on current values. I'd say the ties between Europe and Russia are closer than between Europe and the US. The Tsars were related to the European royal families, after all.

Socially and culturally: Russia is European, not Asian.
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Re: World News Thread

Postby ramsej84 » Sun Jan 28, 2018 11:43 am

Russia is European.
Same can question can be referred to Turkey.
One thing that I never understood is why some ppl think that Portugal is a Mediterranean country!

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Re: World News Thread

Postby ramsej84 » Sun Jan 28, 2018 11:44 am

FCBayernMunchen wrote:
ramsej84 wrote:In other news
The US is against a gas pipeline from Russia to Germany.
They say this will make Europe dependent on Russia.

It's not like it'll be the only source for Germany, let alone the rest of Europe.

Btw, do you guys consider Russia European or not? Socially speaking not geographically, and historically speaking, not necessarily based on current values. I'd say the ties between Europe and Russia are closer than between Europe and the US. The Tsars were related to the European royal families, after all.
And for the US it is ok that europe is "dependent" on them but not on Russia

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Re: World News Thread

Postby Paphlagonian » Sun Jan 28, 2018 11:53 am

I think Russia is the same as Turkey neither fully European nor fully Asian. The only thing makes Russia more close to Europe is Russia's religion. If had not been Orthodox then it would be basically Turkey 2.0 but today Russia is actually more European than some European countries.
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Re: World News Thread

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Sun Jan 28, 2018 12:20 pm

ramsej84 wrote:Russia is European.
Same can question can be referred to Turkey.
One thing that I never understood is why some ppl think that Portugal is a Mediterranean country!

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Don't personally consider Turkey European but they are not quite Asian either. Seems to be a bit of a unique place. Maybe one could compare it to Egypt?
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Re: World News Thread

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Sun Jan 28, 2018 12:23 pm

Paphlagonian wrote:I think Russia is the same as Turkey neither fully European nor fully Asian. The only thing makes Russia more close to Europe is Russia's religion. If had not been Orthodox then it would be basically Turkey 2.0 but today Russia is actually more European than some European countries.

I must admit I don't know much about Turkey but I think the cultural similarities between Russia and the rest of mainland Europe are much bigger. Culturally they are very much like Central/Western Europe. A lot changed in the 20th century obviously but prior to that Russia was not really different, I think.

Definitely they are closer to those countries than some Mediterranean states and especially Malta.

Edit: different question just for you. What are your thoughts about Turkey joining the EU?
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Re: World News Thread

Postby Paphlagonian » Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:19 pm

FCBayernMunchen wrote:
Paphlagonian wrote:I think Russia is the same as Turkey neither fully European nor fully Asian. The only thing makes Russia more close to Europe is Russia's religion. If had not been Orthodox then it would be basically Turkey 2.0 but today Russia is actually more European than some European countries.

I must admit I don't know much about Turkey but I think the cultural similarities between Russia and the rest of mainland Europe are much bigger. Culturally they are very much like Central/Western Europe. A lot changed in the 20th century obviously but prior to that Russia was not really different, I think.

Definitely they are closer to those countries than some Mediterranean states and especially Malta.

Edit: different question just for you. What are your thoughts about Turkey joining the EU?


Let's be honest Turkey will never be allowed to join EU and every single Turk knows this. We are Muslims, you guys are Christians and EU is basically a Christian organization. So we are quite fine with "not to join EU" idea. Our main mission is to actually reach European standards in education, trade&business laws, health care, transportation quality etc. Turkey already surpassed many EU member in health care thanks to the reforms mostly influenced by EU itself. So we are quite fine where we are. I also understand why EU don't want Turkey because I wouldn't want a 80 million muslim majority country to my organization If I was Christian if Turkey joins EU it will hold major voting rights because of the population. That's the way it works. As long as we respect each other I see no problem not joining EU. I actually find it quite amazing that we are supporting the same club and would got each others back while our grandgrandgrandgrandx5 fathers actually tried kill each other for an island :D

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Re: World News Thread

Postby ramsej84 » Sun Jan 28, 2018 3:37 pm

A small correction.the EU is godless...
Liberal...

Re the relationship between Turkey and the EU should not change. Turkey thanks to the deals they did with the EU by exchanging some Migrants/Refugees with eu visas are doing just fine plus they are free to trade with whoever they want to (Russia).

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Re: World News Thread

Postby #12 » Sun Jan 28, 2018 4:49 pm

ramsej84 wrote:A small correction.the EU is godless...
Liberal...


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Re: World News Thread

Postby ramsej84 » Fri Feb 02, 2018 10:51 am

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Re: World News Thread

Postby ramsej84 » Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:07 am

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Re: World News Thread

Postby ramsej84 » Fri Feb 02, 2018 10:10 pm

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