ramsej84 wrote:I wish you are right but don't you think that you, on the other part are being taken for a ride by the liberals... You are going to end up in minority... actually all of Europe will end up like that thanks to your country...
Those who have some sense are not asking to kill anybody but to expell the uninvited and stop letting ppl in that is all... what is wrong with that... ? I am no one to say what you need to do... if you are happy enjoy it... but Germany is not the same I guess that even tourist wise you will see less ppl coming.
Some wks ago I heard someone saying that he could not recognize the city of Munich ...
harry-muc wrote:dont worry, i still recognize my city. i had muslim friends 20 years ago and still have...and if some other muslim, christ or jew **** with me he gets a "watsch"...easy as that.
ramsej84 wrote:Not the ones who have been living there for 50 or 60 years ago you have to worry about but the ones who came in 2015!
ramsej84 wrote:even Paris was liKe that... and by saying this I am going back to what I previously said...cause the ones who committed those atrocities four months ago were born there. Now you can't do much about such ppl but you can try to filter who is coming. But no you need them for your low jobs and even not so lower jobs... Middle eastern ppl are well educated and can fill in many jobs unlike apparently subsaharan ones who used to arrive in Malta and Italy(ok hats off to Germany cause you were the only ones who picked some from here but not in the numbers you are taking now)
I am all for helping those in need but then when everything back home is back to normality ... bye bye...
and as for economic migrants 100% no no no
pyrasur wrote:Did you read her books?
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PunkCapitalist wrote:I'm familiar with Rand, but dont like her very much. Letting agreeing or not on her ideas aside, I always thought the way she formulated her ideas is not conductive to the popularization of libertarianism, which should be an objective e of the movement.
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Fénix wrote:Turkey blocks Facebook, Twitter following deadly Ankara blast – reports [source]
Kurdistan and 40 mil Kurdish people are really a real pain in the eyes of Turkey.
ramsej84 wrote:Fénix wrote:Turkey blocks Facebook, Twitter following deadly Ankara blast – reports [source]
Kurdistan and 40 mil Kurdish people are really a real pain in the eyes of Turkey.
who was after it? Kurds? Just saw headline news...
The same in the Ivory Coast...
For a change the terrorist shouted allahu akbar ... what a shame using the name of God to justify their madness.
#12 wrote:One way to see it... Another - and more correct- way to see it, is that even in Saxony-Anhalt more than 65% are aboard her current course...
And the loss of "Merkel's" party in Baden-Württemberg was to be expected - Kretschmann is a charismatic guy (and leading a campaign titled "I'm the one backing the chancellor's course"...)... CDU will most likely be a part of every new government that was elected today...
Of course they gained - they're a new "party"...
Still, most of their voters were voting out of protest, many of those usually non-voters... It's a party for the losers in our current society...
And - this is where we get to why you actually "like" them: more than 75% of THEIR OWN voters believe they have nothing to offer, especially no solutions... It's a classic protest vote and nothing else...
About the "Turkey-stuff": is that still "politics"?
#12 wrote:ramsej84 wrote:even Paris was liKe that... and by saying this I am going back to what I previously said...cause the ones who committed those atrocities four months ago were born there. Now you can't do much about such ppl but you can try to filter who is coming. But no you need them for your low jobs and even not so lower jobs... Middle eastern ppl are well educated and can fill in many jobs unlike apparently subsaharan ones who used to arrive in Malta and Italy(ok hats off to Germany cause you were the only ones who picked some from here but not in the numbers you are taking now)
I am all for helping those in need but then when everything back home is back to normality ... bye bye...
and as for economic migrants 100% no no no
Ok, you're talking about like 5 different things here...
Let's start:
Economic migrants... Why not? They're not refugees, and they should go through a proper citiznship application... Buät I think people coming here actually willing to work (believe you me, even though prejudices and stereotypes about Germany speak a different language: we have enough of those...)
Secondly: They're asylum seekers... OF COURSE they will be sent home as soon as their home is safe again... It never was different and it probabaly never will be...
"The Subsaharans" - you keep mentioning those... We have them... Lots of them... We don't just have Syrians... My hometown is very small, and there are significantly more "blacks" on the streets than before (actually, I barely saw one every now and then, now I see up to 5-10 a day...)... They're here... We're not picking cherries herem, even though somebody may have told you differently (actually, from what I hear, we have more problems with those than with Syrians, Afghans and all other Muslims...)
We all know we have to "filter" who's coming... Especially to make sure where they come from... We are doing that... You still keep talking about a one-time-event - that has been criticized by many, including me (but I can also relate to it and understand it...) - generally, we'Re not letting in everyone, whoever or whatever gave you that idea, forget it... OF COURSE our politicians are worried about our security (and by "our" I mean Europe's!")... And are taking actions for it...
And lastly: you cannot lock out terror(ism)... There is no 100% safety... There have been problems way before refugees came here, and there will be long after... All evidence points to actual terrorists, the BIG problems, not arriving here with refugees... As you said: they were born there... WE (Germany) made a mistake there, because we let them back in when we shouldn't have... But you know what? Those assholes actually came back in a plane...We don't have more or less terror because of refugees... What you're demanding is sacrificing maybe tens of thousands in order to make basically no difference but "maybe in a very very lucky case potentially eventually possibly maybe" save a few... Generalizations never help... It's the same in this case... Of course, we also get "criminals"... But it's not like we never knew criminals before...
ramsej84 wrote:I leave it in Merkel's hands for the solutions ... she is the one... no? Did she sign the transfer of the 6,6 billion euros to **** yet?
albanian7 wrote:If they don't benefit your country, why do you want them in the country?
albanian7 wrote:Many of them are from Albania or Kosovo, they're sending money from Germanythanks for raising consumption in my city
albanian7 wrote:Whom are you filtering? Are you sure you are? Keeping criminals? I can't say I know the situation well, but I honestly don't think we're talking about millions of young professionals with PhD degrees staying in Germany and working in hospitals.
albanian7 wrote:We, people from another country, have this idea that your government decided to let everyone in simply because that's what saw on TV last September/October. Do you mean to tell me that thousands of people didn't get into trains in Hungary and came to Munich back then? Do you mean to tell me that last year Germany vetted one million people before letting them into the country? I didn't pull off that one million number out of my ass, your government said that.
albanian7 wrote:The issue is that in one million people you let in, the majority will stay.
albanian7 wrote:your ghettos
albanian7 wrote:Why do you think Germany will be able to integrate these one million people better than France integrated theirs? Better than the Turks?
albanian7 wrote:That doesn't mean inviting more in. Even if they are a perfect representation of immigrants, they have, in general, a higher crime rate than the national rate right? Even if that wasn't the case, single young men have a higher chance of engaging in criminal activities.
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