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Re: The BF learn-a-new-language thread

Postby MUTU » Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:59 pm

Hardrade wrote:Question for Germans: is there a known historical reason or explanation why you write all nouns in capital letters?

Google knows.

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Re: The BF learn-a-new-language thread

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:23 pm

As correctly pointed out by someone else in MUTU’s link, English also often capitalised all nouns in the past, even though by that point the Latin (Roman Empire) and French (Normans) influence was already very strong and English was moving away from its Germanic roots. That makes me wonder a bit whether the explanation given is the historical reason itself or just why it’s practical.
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Re: The BF learn-a-new-language thread

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:33 pm

Reading up a bit (although this isn’t reliable linguistic research by any means), it seems that this was made a rule in the 17th century. Before that it seems that originally just proper nouns were capitalised, then eventually other nouns which needed to stand out, such as titles and important positions/professions. It seems that what happened from then on is people just started capitalising all important nouns and it was a kind of slippery slope effect. I suspect this may have caused some confusion so eventually they decided to make it a rule to capitalise all nouns, but I haven’t found anything actually claiming this to be the case.
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Re: The BF learn-a-new-language thread

Postby ramsej84 » Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:48 pm

Ngħidu kelma? – Maltese language school alive and thriving in New South Wales
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Re: The BF learn-a-new-language thread

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Re: The BF learn-a-new-language thread

Postby ramsej84 » Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:01 am

https://timesofmalta.com/articles/view/ ... 10s.760488

Ten Maltese words that went ‘viral’ in the 2010s

Maltese continues to evolve
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Re: The BF learn-a-new-language thread

Postby ramsej84 » Sun Apr 05, 2020 12:46 pm

Italian Words Sounding Like Maltese Vulgarities Will Never Not Be Funny




https://lovinmalta.com/lifestyle/langua ... -be-funny/
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Re: The BF learn-a-new-language thread

Postby ramsej84 » Tue Apr 28, 2020 9:59 pm

Not being able to give Maltese names to your children is shameful’

PN MP Ryan Callus says situation should be rectified

https://timesofmalta.com/articles/view/ ... ful.788666Image
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Re: The BF learn-a-new-language thread

Postby MUTU » Wed Apr 29, 2020 11:47 am

ramsej84 wrote:Not being able to give Maltese names to your children is shameful’

PN MP Ryan Callus says situation should be rectified

https://timesofmalta.com/articles/view/ ... ful.788666Image

I used Maltese characters on PCs since around 30 years ago. Really embarrassing for us.
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Re: The BF learn-a-new-language thread

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Wed Apr 29, 2020 11:59 am

What I don’t get is whether this is simply that they don’t have the characters on their computers or whether there is some more difficult technical hurdle (the system/database does not recognise these characters). Still shameful, but the first is literally solved in seconds.
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Re: The BF learn-a-new-language thread

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Wed Apr 29, 2020 12:03 pm

Btw this is really just the tip of the iceberg. Check out any document or contract drawn up by a notary or lawyer, most court judgments and even laws. Most of the time you either won’t find Maltese characters or you will find half the words with Maltese characters and the other half without them (c instead of ċ, z for both ż and z, and so on).
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Re: The BF learn-a-new-language thread

Postby ramsej84 » Fri May 01, 2020 5:32 pm

Wow Romanian is beautiful.
It sounds so musical...
I think it is a language that I can probably learn without much trouble...

https://youtu.be/VZK9sCeagNc

I noticed that the letter I at the end is never pronounced.

I also learned that it is the language of Moldova and the Region of Vojvodina in Serbia !
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Re: The BF learn-a-new-language thread

Postby ramsej84 » Mon May 04, 2020 6:07 pm

FCBayernMunchen wrote:What I don’t get is whether this is simply that they don’t have the characters on their computers or whether there is some more difficult technical hurdle (the system/database does not recognise these characters). Still shameful, but the first is literally solved in seconds.
Maltese font to be allowed for baby names 'in coming weeks'

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The BF learn-a-new-language thread

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Fri May 08, 2020 3:53 pm



Very interesting guess the word game between a Hebrew and an (Egyptian) Arabic speaker. As a Maltese speaker I would have guessed most of these. The ones I don’t think I would:
- river (I would have guessed the other word she mentioned, “nahar” (daytime) instead of “nahr” (river))
- engineer
- bone (our word is close enough, but the middle ‘z’ instead of ‘d’ confused me)
- ten (again, our word is fairly close, but no way I’d make the link. This was Hebrew “eser”... obviously I would have guessed it if were the Egyptian word instead)
- shadow (like the Arabic speaker I had no clue, but I would have understand the Arabic word instead of the Hebrew I think)
- natural (guessed it much quicker than the participant from the hints and context but wouldn’t have understood the words on its own).
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Re: The BF learn-a-new-language thread

Postby ramsej84 » Fri May 08, 2020 7:38 pm

That sentence by the Israeli girl about salad...

I got it 100% correct
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