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Re: Maltese members

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Fri May 26, 2017 11:01 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: =D> =D> =D>

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Re: Maltese members

Postby ramsej84 » Fri May 26, 2017 11:08 pm

FCBayernMunchen wrote: =D> =D> =D>


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Re: Maltese members

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Sat May 27, 2017 12:01 am

Me neither. Too fed up... considering the Independent's revelations just before the debate, I'm sure that's all it was about.
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Re: Maltese members

Postby ramsej84 » Sat May 27, 2017 6:47 am

FCBayernMunchen wrote:Me neither. Too fed up... considering the Independent's revelations just before the debate, I'm sure that's all it was about.

New revelations?

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Re: Maltese members

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Sat May 27, 2017 9:22 am

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FCBayernMunchen wrote:Me neither. Too fed up... considering the Independent's revelations just before the debate, I'm sure that's all it was about.

New revelations?

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Re: Maltese members

Postby ramsej84 » Sat May 27, 2017 9:30 am

yes I read it on the MI and ToM ...
I am fed up with both...
my vote #1 Allejanza ghal Bidla
#2 Patrijotti
#3 one of the PN candidates (either Ivan Bartolo or the other guy from Mosta whom I've forgot his name)

with such a vote I will still vote for the PN due to our perverse and unfair system
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Re: Maltese members

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Sat May 27, 2017 10:30 am

I'm still unsure in which order I'll vote. #1 will be the leader of the Opposition though. The other ones I'd like to vote for are Alex Mangion, Ralph Cassar (both local councillors in Attard), maybe Carmel Cacopardo.

Do we have any Partit Demokratiku candidates in our district? I'd probably vote for them.
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Re: Maltese members

Postby ramsej84 » Sat May 27, 2017 10:42 am

FCBayernMunchen wrote:I'm still unsure in which order I'll vote. #1 will be the leader of the Opposition though. The other ones I'd like to vote for are Alex Mangion, Ralph Cassar (both local councillors in Attard), maybe Carmel Cacopardo.

Do we have any Partit Demokratiku candidates in our district? I'd probably vote for them.

yes . under the ta'l-orangjo' umbrella
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Re: Maltese members

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Sat May 27, 2017 11:30 am

Thanks. On the electoral commission website the tal-orangjo nickname isn't there!
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Re: Maltese members

Postby MUTU » Mon May 29, 2017 9:06 am

ramsej84 wrote:yes I read it on the MI and ToM ...
I am fed up with both...
my vote #1 Allejanza ghal Bidla
#2 Patrijotti
#3 one of the PN candidates (either Ivan Bartolo or the other guy from Mosta whom I've forgot his name)

with such a vote I will still vote for the PN due to our perverse and unfair system

No you won't vote for PN this way. In fact your vote would be quite useless.
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Re: Maltese members

Postby ramsej84 » Mon May 29, 2017 9:19 am

MUTU wrote:
ramsej84 wrote:yes I read it on the MI and ToM ...
I am fed up with both...
my vote #1 Allejanza ghal Bidla
#2 Patrijotti
#3 one of the PN candidates (either Ivan Bartolo or the other guy from Mosta whom I've forgot his name)

with such a vote I will still vote for the PN due to our perverse and unfair system

No you won't vote for PN this way. In fact your vote would be quite useless.


no, after the candidate with #1 get eliminated it will be transferred on the #2 and when this one will get eliminated as well it will be transferred to the next and so on...
maybe I will include two more candidates in order not to go wasted!
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Re: Maltese members

Postby ramsej84 » Mon May 29, 2017 9:20 am

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Re: Maltese members

Postby MUTU » Mon May 29, 2017 9:22 am

ramsej84 wrote:
MUTU wrote:
ramsej84 wrote:yes I read it on the MI and ToM ...
I am fed up with both...
my vote #1 Allejanza ghal Bidla
#2 Patrijotti
#3 one of the PN candidates (either Ivan Bartolo or the other guy from Mosta whom I've forgot his name)

with such a vote I will still vote for the PN due to our perverse and unfair system

No you won't vote for PN this way. In fact your vote would be quite useless.


no, after the candidate with #1 get eliminated it will be transferred on the #2 and when this one will get eliminated as well it will be transferred to the next and so on...
maybe I will include two more candidates in order not to go wasted!

I thought they needed to be elected rather than eliminated. Thanks for the explanation.

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Re: Maltese members

Postby ramsej84 » Mon May 29, 2017 9:26 am

MUTU wrote:
ramsej84 wrote:
MUTU wrote:[quote="ramsej84"]yes I read it on the MI and ToM ...
I am fed up with both...
my vote #1 Allejanza ghal Bidla
#2 Patrijotti
#3 one of the PN candidates (either Ivan Bartolo or the other guy from Mosta whom I've forgot his name)

with such a vote I will still vote for the PN due to our perverse and unfair system

No you won't vote for PN this way. In fact your vote would be quite useless.


no, after the candidate with #1 get eliminated it will be transferred on the #2 and when this one will get eliminated as well it will be transferred to the next and so on...
maybe I will include two more candidates in order not to go wasted!

I thought they needed to be elected rather than eliminated. Thanks for the explanation.

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The one you mentioned works when the candidate get the required quota to get elected. The extra votes (if any) will be then be transferred to the the #2

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Re: Maltese members

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Mon May 29, 2017 10:13 am

What I dislike about the system is the way it works when the candidate gets elected. Say I give number 1 to candidate A and 2 to B. MUTU gives 1 to A and 2 to C. When A is elected, the extra votes above the quota are transferred. This means there's a chance that my vote won't be transferred but MUTU's will, meaning that C gets a vote while B doesn't.

I'm not sure how which ones get transferred is determined but unless I'm wrong about how it works, it's not fully representative. That said in Malta the #1 votes are the most important as they determine the election irrespective of who follows


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