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Re: Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19)

Postby #12 » Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:51 pm

Dumbledore7 wrote:I sympathise with Brexiteers now. This pandemic has really exposed the weak-mindedness of capitalist Europe, all talk and no action, driven by fear of disrupting the "normal" at the very slightest. I don't mean to say that Brexit makes the UK immediately better because the British are also inherently weak-minded (UK still haven't taken any action whatsoever), but still a step in the right direction. Never thought I'd say this but you'll find me agreeing with ramsej84's views more.

Edit: I was subconsciously referring to the bigger countries - Germany, France, Italy - when I said Europe, because it can already be seen that the likes of Bulgaria and Czechia have taken action in response to significantly less symptoms.

Well, it didn’t come completely out of nowhere but still kinda out of the blue for us and more so the Italians...
Ramsej jumped every blame-train and even blamed Germans when it was most likely a few bucks in tourism in Italy that set it off... Be it as it may, those other countries have less travelers and they had a lot of warnings from outside...
Don’t judge TOO much cause I still think crisis management here is not THAT bad...
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Re: Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19)

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:55 pm

I don’t think it’s being mishandled as much as some are implying, but the problem is not the EU but money, capitalism, and the economy. These things dominate the west more than anywhere else. We do not have our priorities right. If you ask me the UK is doing even worse than most places in the EU. Their plan to aim for herd immunity is ludicrous.
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Re: Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19)

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:06 pm

On a more personal level I must admit the social realities have started to take a heavy toll on me today, much more than the disease itself did.

I ended two weeks of self-quarantine following my time in Italy on Monday. On Tuesday I took my work to a coffee shop for a few hours as I like doing in normal times, which I had missed doing. On Wednesday, although we are not yet in official lockdown, something somehow changed, and the country decided we’re not going out anymore. So, right after my self-quarantine ended, I am back inside for God knows how long. I only anticipate it getting worse locally.

Other than the few hours of work on Tuesday, I haven’t been properly out in Malta since mid-February, a full month, and again, who knows how long I still have. Not even for my (landmark) birthday. Tonight I was supposed to have a birthday dinner and drinks which I was really looking forward to because for the first time in a long time everyone in our group of friends could manage to make it, but I chose to cancel it yesterday because I didn’t want anyone to feel obliged to come when they were uncomfortable, and I was myself a little uncomfortable with it.

Meanwhile I had been planning to spend my birthday in Glasgow but scrapped my plans two weeks ago after we were advised to quarantine, as it would have meant spending most of my actual birthday day travelling. I was disappointed but was looking forward to the person I go up to spend time with there coming down to Malta at the end of the month, like every month. Now today Malta has imposed 14 days of mandatory quarantine to anyone coming from overseas, wherever in the world, and although I agree with it, it means this is also off for now and again, no clue when either of us will be able to travel.

We are in for a difficult few weeks, hopefully not months. Fingers crossed we start returning to normality soon.
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Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19)

Postby #12 » Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:12 pm

FCBayernMunchen wrote:On a more personal level I must admit the social realities have started to take a heavy toll on me today, much more than the disease itself did.

I ended two weeks of self-quarantine following my time in Italy on Monday. On Tuesday I took my work to a coffee shop for a few hours as I like doing in normal times, which I had missed doing. On Wednesday, although we are not yet in official lockdown, something somehow changed, and the country decided we’re not going out anymore. So, right after my self-quarantine ended, I am back inside for God knows how long. I only anticipate it getting worse locally.

Other than the few hours of work on Tuesday, I haven’t been properly out in Malta since mid-February, a full month, and again, who knows how long I still have. Not even for my (landmark) birthday. Tonight I was supposed to have a birthday dinner and drinks which I was really looking forward to because for the first time in a long time everyone in our group of friends could manage to make it, but I chose to cancel it yesterday because I didn’t want anyone to feel obliged to come when they were uncomfortable, and I was myself a little uncomfortable with it.

Meanwhile I had been planning to spend my birthday in Glasgow but scrapped my plans two weeks ago after we were advised to quarantine, as it would have meant spending most of my actual birthday day travelling. I was disappointed but was looking forward to the person I go up to spend time with there coming down to Malta at the end of the month, like every month. Now today Malta has imposed 14 days of mandatory quarantine to anyone coming from overseas, wherever in the world, and although I agree with it, it means this is also off for now and again, no clue when either of us will be able to travel.

We are in for a difficult few weeks, hopefully not months. Fingers crossed we start returning to normality soon.
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Re: Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19)

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:16 pm

I think we will be back to relative normality around June.
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Re: Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19)

Postby Dumbledore7 » Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:16 pm

FCBayernMunchen wrote:I don’t think it’s being mishandled as much as some are implying, but the problem is not the EU but money, capitalism, and the economy. These things dominate the west more than anywhere else. We do not have our priorities right. If you ask me the UK is doing even worse than most places in the EU. Their plan to aim for herd immunity is ludicrous.

Yeah, I never said the EU and I meant to say that I sympathise with the Brexit *sentiment*. The European establishment worships money, so serves them right.
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Re: Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19)

Postby #12 » Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:25 pm

FCBayernMunchen wrote:I think we will be back to relative normality around June.
I‘m not gonna give you more nurishment for your pessimist theory

So I just hope you're right and the stuff I read and read is just a worst case scenario...
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Re: Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19)

Postby #12 » Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:26 pm

Dumbledore7 wrote:
FCBayernMunchen wrote:I don’t think it’s being mishandled as much as some are implying, but the problem is not the EU but money, capitalism, and the economy. These things dominate the west more than anywhere else. We do not have our priorities right. If you ask me the UK is doing even worse than most places in the EU. Their plan to aim for herd immunity is ludicrous.

Yeah, I never said the EU and I meant to say that I sympathise with the Brexit *sentiment*. The European establishment worships money, so serves them right.
Doesn’t all the West?
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Re: Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19)

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:31 pm

#12 wrote:
FCBayernMunchen wrote:I think we will be back to relative normality around June.
I‘m not gonna give you more nurishment for your pessimist theory

So I just hope you're right and the stuff I read and read is just a worst case scenario...
To be fair I read June as a best case scenario from a Chinese medical specialist. But I think we will be back to relative normality before we are completely free of the virus.

Countries are starting to implement important measures, everyone is becoming aware, and we will have rising temperatures. I am confident it will be much better in a few months’ time.
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Re: Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19)

Postby Dumbledore7 » Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:36 pm

#12 wrote:
Dumbledore7 wrote:
FCBayernMunchen wrote:I don’t think it’s being mishandled as much as some are implying, but the problem is not the EU but money, capitalism, and the economy. These things dominate the west more than anywhere else. We do not have our priorities right. If you ask me the UK is doing even worse than most places in the EU. Their plan to aim for herd immunity is ludicrous.

Yeah, I never said the EU and I meant to say that I sympathise with the Brexit *sentiment*. The European establishment worships money, so serves them right.
Doesn’t all the West?

Yes, whatever it is you want to call it.
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Re: Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19)

Postby ramsej84 » Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:53 pm

FCBayernMunchen wrote:On a more personal level I must admit the social realities have started to take a heavy toll on me today, much more than the disease itself did.

I ended two weeks of self-quarantine following my time in Italy on Monday. On Tuesday I took my work to a coffee shop for a few hours as I like doing in normal times, which I had missed doing. On Wednesday, although we are not yet in official lockdown, something somehow changed, and the country decided we’re not going out anymore. So, right after my self-quarantine ended, I am back inside for God knows how long. I only anticipate it getting worse locally.

Other than the few hours of work on Tuesday, I haven’t been properly out in Malta since mid-February, a full month, and again, who knows how long I still have. Not even for my (landmark) birthday. Tonight I was supposed to have a birthday dinner and drinks which I was really looking forward to because for the first time in a long time everyone in our group of friends could manage to make it, but I chose to cancel it yesterday because I didn’t want anyone to feel obliged to come when they were uncomfortable, and I was myself a little uncomfortable with it.

Meanwhile I had been planning to spend my birthday in Glasgow but scrapped my plans two weeks ago after we were advised to quarantine, as it would have meant spending most of my actual birthday day travelling. I was disappointed but was looking forward to the person I go up to spend time with there coming down to Malta at the end of the month, like every month. Now today Malta has imposed 14 days of mandatory quarantine to anyone coming from overseas, wherever in the world, and although I agree with it, it means this is also off for now and again, no clue when either of us will be able to travel.

We are in for a difficult few weeks, hopefully not months. Fingers crossed we start returning to normality soon.


May God help us (all the World) get over this.
May it serve a lesson as many said before.

Italians took it lightly kept going for their daily espresso at the bar, taking children to parks etc.

In England I don't know what they are doing but from what I read it is kind of idiotic
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Re: Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19)

Postby ramsej84 » Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:54 pm

#12 wrote:
FCBayernMunchen wrote:On a more personal level I must admit the social realities have started to take a heavy toll on me today, much more than the disease itself did.

I ended two weeks of self-quarantine following my time in Italy on Monday. On Tuesday I took my work to a coffee shop for a few hours as I like doing in normal times, which I had missed doing. On Wednesday, although we are not yet in official lockdown, something somehow changed, and the country decided we’re not going out anymore. So, right after my self-quarantine ended, I am back inside for God knows how long. I only anticipate it getting worse locally.

Other than the few hours of work on Tuesday, I haven’t been properly out in Malta since mid-February, a full month, and again, who knows how long I still have. Not even for my (landmark) birthday. Tonight I was supposed to have a birthday dinner and drinks which I was really looking forward to because for the first time in a long time everyone in our group of friends could manage to make it, but I chose to cancel it yesterday because I didn’t want anyone to feel obliged to come when they were uncomfortable, and I was myself a little uncomfortable with it.

Meanwhile I had been planning to spend my birthday in Glasgow but scrapped my plans two weeks ago after we were advised to quarantine, as it would have meant spending most of my actual birthday day travelling. I was disappointed but was looking forward to the person I go up to spend time with there coming down to Malta at the end of the month, like every month. Now today Malta has imposed 14 days of mandatory quarantine to anyone coming from overseas, wherever in the world, and although I agree with it, it means this is also off for now and again, no clue when either of us will be able to travel.

We are in for a difficult few weeks, hopefully not months. Fingers crossed we start returning to normality soon.
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Nooo why a year? Soon the warm weather will kick in and it will settle it
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Re: Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19)

Postby ramsej84 » Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:59 pm

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Re: Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19)

Postby Dumbledore7 » Fri Mar 13, 2020 11:00 pm

In England we're literally not doing anything lol
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Re: Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19)

Postby #12 » Fri Mar 13, 2020 11:31 pm

ramsej84 wrote:
#12 wrote:
FCBayernMunchen wrote:On a more personal level I must admit the social realities have started to take a heavy toll on me today, much more than the disease itself did.

I ended two weeks of self-quarantine following my time in Italy on Monday. On Tuesday I took my work to a coffee shop for a few hours as I like doing in normal times, which I had missed doing. On Wednesday, although we are not yet in official lockdown, something somehow changed, and the country decided we’re not going out anymore. So, right after my self-quarantine ended, I am back inside for God knows how long. I only anticipate it getting worse locally.

Other than the few hours of work on Tuesday, I haven’t been properly out in Malta since mid-February, a full month, and again, who knows how long I still have. Not even for my (landmark) birthday. Tonight I was supposed to have a birthday dinner and drinks which I was really looking forward to because for the first time in a long time everyone in our group of friends could manage to make it, but I chose to cancel it yesterday because I didn’t want anyone to feel obliged to come when they were uncomfortable, and I was myself a little uncomfortable with it.

Meanwhile I had been planning to spend my birthday in Glasgow but scrapped my plans two weeks ago after we were advised to quarantine, as it would have meant spending most of my actual birthday day travelling. I was disappointed but was looking forward to the person I go up to spend time with there coming down to Malta at the end of the month, like every month. Now today Malta has imposed 14 days of mandatory quarantine to anyone coming from overseas, wherever in the world, and although I agree with it, it means this is also off for now and again, no clue when either of us will be able to travel.

We are in for a difficult few weeks, hopefully not months. Fingers crossed we start returning to normality soon.
Dude... I hope it’s not years... If we're 80-90
% back to "normality" a year from now I'll be really happy...
Nooo why a year? Soon the warm weather will kick in and it will settle it

Little skeptical about it... Iran's also pretty warm... There's a theory now expecting a high of infections in mid July-August for Germany... I hope it‘s wrong... We could use the relief to prepare for the second wave...
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