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Re: Official generic player injury thread

Postby Isabella » Sun Dec 03, 2017 3:24 pm

ramsej84 wrote:
MUTU wrote:
According to Lewandowski, Ancelotti is responsible for the current muscle injuries at Bayern. "When many muscle injuries happen, you do not have to watch the last weeks of training, but go back two, three months," said Lewandowski to SportBild. "It's more likely that the reason is there." [source]
How about the idiotic tour of Asia?

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For me also Lewy was talking more of the Asian tour than of Ancelotti’s training. Usually when he talk about something like that his target is the board not the coach (and he never said anything bad about Ancelotti earlier)
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Re: Official generic player injury thread

Postby MUTU » Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:22 am

Considering how often our goalkeepers are getting injured, especially in training, does Toni Tapalović still get a free pass with him being the goalkeeping coach and all that?
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Re: Official generic player injury thread

Postby IsiahRashad » Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:00 pm

So today everyone except Neuer and Thiago trained on all cylinders.
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Re: Official generic player injury thread

Postby MUTU » Thu Dec 21, 2017 7:10 pm

FC Bayern occupy the top 3 places for the world's highest valued players currently out injured.

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Re: Official generic player injury thread

Postby RedQueen » Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:27 pm

Average days per player missed in the Hinrunde 2017/18 (per Sportbuzzer):

1. RB Leipzig 13.00 days
2. FC Augsburg 13.88 days
3. TSG Hoffenheim 18.97 days
4. Bayer Leverkusen 20.15 days
5. Werder Bremen 22.27 days
6. Schalke 04 22.42 days
7. SC Freiburg 24.94 days
8. Hamburger SV 26.37 days
9. VfL Wolfsburg 26.46 days
10. 1. FC Köln 28.52 days
11. Hannover 96 30.81 days
12. FC Bayern München 31.04 days
13. Hertha BSC 31.15 days
14. Borussia Dortmund 32.24 days
15. Borussia Mönchengladbach 33.10 days
16. Eintracht Frankfurt 37.81 days
17. VfB Stuttgart 38.22 days
18. Mainz 05 40.27 days

The article includes a number of possible reasons for Leipzig's first place, including - once again - the daily blood tests.
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Re: Official generic player injury thread

Postby MUTU » Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:47 pm

RedQueen wrote:Average days per player missed in the Hinrunde 2017/18 (per Sportbuzzer):

1. RB Leipzig 13.00 days
2. FC Augsburg 13.88 days
3. TSG Hoffenheim 18.97 days
4. Bayer Leverkusen 20.15 days
5. Werder Bremen 22.27 days
6. Schalke 04 22.42 days
7. SC Freiburg 24.94 days
8. Hamburger SV 26.37 days
9. VfL Wolfsburg 26.46 days
10. 1. FC Köln 28.52 days
11. Hannover 96 30.81 days
12. FC Bayern München 31.04 days
13. Hertha BSC 31.15 days
14. Borussia Dortmund 32.24 days
15. Borussia Mönchengladbach 33.10 days
16. Eintracht Frankfurt 37.81 days
17. VfB Stuttgart 38.22 days
18. Mainz 05 40.27 days

The article includes a number of possible reasons for Leipzig's first place, including - once again - the daily blood tests.
Wow. Another factor though is also the young average age. In any case we need to overhaul our medical system, but that won't happen while HWMW and Heynckes are at the club.
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Re: Official generic player injury thread

Postby aterford » Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:13 pm

I've really found this quite interesting. Is it just a coincidence that we've suffered so many injuries? I really don't know what to point to. Some wanted to blame Müller-Wohlfahrt. He leaves, nothing improves. But then guess what: he returns, nothing improves. Some wanted to blame the artificial turf we had at the training facilities. it's removed and replaced with natural grass: no improvement. We have had a handful of different nutritionists. Different medical staff. Different training staff. Some players who were previously quite healthy suddenly finding themselves in the doctor's office quite a bit at FCB. I can't find any one common factor. Perhaps it's just a coincidence, but that's starting to seem unlikely to me. It really does seem like we need a top-to-bottom overhaul of our medical system - AND, for me, the training systems, too, as it seems that we suffer quite a bit of injuries in training as well. I'm not quite a doctor - I study the mind, not the body - but it certainly seems out of the norm to me.
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Re: Official generic player injury thread

Postby RedQueen » Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:20 pm

I mean, Bayern's results aren't horrible but they surely could be better.

Long term injuries increase the average days missed. Neuer, for example. But that can't be the only explanation. As the article points out, Lukas Klostermann missed almost the entire last season with an ACL tear, but Leipzig were still in 5th place. This season, there were Ilsanker (who broke his toe because somebody stepped on it in an international match) and Sabitzer (who dislocated his shoulder). These things happen.

I still think it's no coincidence that of the top 4 teams three are using the same methods for Belastungssteuerung. Dortmund used it too while Tuchel was there - I wonder whether they are still using it.

Blaming HWMW is beside the point IMO. The point is preventing injuries, not rushing injured players back into training and matches.
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Re: Official generic player injury thread

Postby MUTU » Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:29 am

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