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Firefox1234 wrote:Fortunately he will be back mid season at the least but I would have preferred him to be in the squad for the PSG fixtures....

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ramsej84 wrote:Leaving the med centre with his wife
https://twitter.com/iMiaSanMia/status/9 ... 3167523840

They are saying that if he needs an op it will take roughly 8 wks, meaning that he can be back by the end of Nov.
If that is the case Imo he should only start in the second round... there is no need to risk him again for max five games.

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James11 wrote:It's official. Neuer out till January.

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MUTU wrote:Neuer will miss 19 to 20 matches for Bayern with this injury.

13 Bundesliga matches
5 Champions League matches
1 or 2 DFB Pokal matches (depending on whether or not we go through against RB Leipzig)

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America USA wrote:Although January is the expected date of return, I don't think he'll be back until February/March.

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Mircea_1984 wrote:They said January 2018 to not put pressure on Manu's recovery, given his setback during the conservative treatment in the summer, but by the end of November he should start the individual training and running. There are every chanches that he will be completely recovered after the Christmas.

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ramsej84 wrote:Manu will spend six weeks on crutches than he will start the rehabilitation prog...

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MUTU wrote:

ramsej84 wrote:Manu will spend six weeks on crutches than he will start the rehabilitation prog...
January might still be early imo...
https://twitter.com/iMiaSanMia/status/9 ... 7429946369

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Here we go... "at the earliest" now.

Expect Manu to come back in late February.

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America USA wrote:As I had expected. Neuer will not be back until late March around the time of a potential CL QF. Fractures are terrible and those who had expected a January return were either lying or are foolish.

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ramsej84 wrote:Some bad news... https://twitter.com/iMiaSanMia/status/9 ... 8246157315
If this is correct it will only be in March when he will be back to guard our goal

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tflags wrote:March 1st as per transfermarkt.

2018.

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America USA wrote:As I had said, he won’t be back until April.

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tflags wrote:Transfermarkt says March 1st.

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MUTU wrote:"The plan is that he can train sometime in February, March, that he certainly needs more time [to recover]," Joachim Loew told Radio B5.

"He is the best keeper in the world, our captain and we absolutely need him."

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IsiahRashad wrote:Manuel Neuer is expected to resume team training in around 6 weeks. Comeback in March.

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America USA wrote:I think he should be back by April.

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IsiahRashad wrote:Jupp on Manuel Neuer: "I just met Manu in the gym. The doctors are very optimistic, but I won't precise a comeback date now because that would only build up too much pressure on him"

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DRvad14 wrote:end of April ?

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America USA wrote:Transfermarkt now says that Manuel will be back on April 19. That sounds about right and as I had predicted that he would be back somewhere in mid/late April.

If Neuer can join team training after the Pokal Semifinal by April 20 then there is an outside chance that he could play for Bayern in the (potential) CL SF second leg and surely by the (potential) Final.

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tflags wrote:"You'll see if he's on the training ground in early April," Heynckes said.

Via TZ.

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IsiahRashad wrote:Jupp on Neuer: "The perspective is positive. It's looking very good"
Comeback in April?
Jupp: "I think so, yes"

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IsiahRashad wrote:According to Kicker, Manuel Neuer will try running on the treadmill at 100% for the first time today. Adding that if everything goes well, Neuer could be back in goal for Bayern next month.

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#12 wrote:Salihamidzic just said live in Sky when asked about his personal feeling: "I would be happy if he would be able to play a few matches for us this season"

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ramsej84 wrote:If we reach the dfb pokal finale I guess that he will be the one to defend our goal.

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MUTU wrote:19th April is Transfermarkt's estimated comeback. If that's accurate, he would be fit for both (potential) Champions League semi-final ties! The first legs will be played on 24th and 25th April. The second legs on 1st and 2nd May.

Maybe he can play some part in the match against Hannover 96 on 21st April?

I'm dying to see him back.

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IsiahRashad wrote:Heynckes: "Manuel Neuer's current situation is very positive. His injury is 100% healed, but now it's about upping the intensity step by step, then we'll see when he could return. I'm confident that it will happen this season still."

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YlonenXabi wrote:I have a feeling he will come back against Eintracht just before the 2nd league against Real.

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#12 wrote:I think he'll play next week...

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MUTU wrote:I predict Manuel Neuer to play in the Bundesliga against Eintracht Frankfurt on 28th April 2018, between the first and second legs against Real Madrid.

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IsiahRashad wrote:The game against Köln comes too early for Manuel Neuer. Heynckes says, "We'll have a look next week." [Kicker]

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IsiahRashad wrote:Jupp Heynckes on Neuer: He will take the next step toward his return next week. Tomorow will not be available. Physically he is 100% fit. He still has great ambitions to go to the World Cup.

Neuer will play next week.

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IsiahRashad wrote:Manuel Neuer: "I'm convinced that I will make it in time for the World Cup, the only uncertainty is the exact date."

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Have you somehow been keeping this on draft for this long? Damn, that must have taken some time to assemble! xD

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MUTU wrote:Neuer said that if he suffers another leg injury, it would probably be career-ending

Found a source for this since I was asked about it on Twitter.

Neuer stated, “It’s really important that nothing happens to my foot now. Otherwise it could put my career at risk. I am confident and I think I will return to my old strength.”

Kill me now...

Sorry for big wall of text but thought this might be interesting: I went back over the last year and found every bit of news relating to Neuer's injury and subsequent re-injuries/setbacks and compiled them all here. Sad....

March 30, 2017 - Initial injury to Neuer’s foot. A “minor intervention” was necessary and he was expected to miss two games. This came 10 days after being withdrawn from DFB-training due to calf problems; he missed the friendly vs England and WC qualifier vs Azerbaijan. (Official FCB release)

Same day - Neuer tweets “Yesterday I had a little op after a training injury on my left foot. Everything went great and I’m working hard to get back into the team quickly.

March 31, 2017 - Neuer is photographed by Bild with a still-bandaged calf (recall March 20th injury) as well as a fully wrapped foot/ankle and is on crutches.

April 1, 2017 - Ancelotti confirms Neuer will be able to play vs Dortmund and Real Madrid: “He has a small problem with his toe, but there’s no danger to his participation in the first leg of the quarterfinal”

April 3, 2017 - Sport1 claims that Neuer will NOT be ready to play vs Dortmund (4/8/17) and will be questionable to face Madrid.

April 3, 2017 - Ancelotti: “Neuer will resume individual training on Wednesday (April 5). All I can say is that he will 100% play vs Real Madrid”

April 4, 2017 - Per Bild, Neuer is photographed off crutches. They claim that he won’t be ready in time for BVB game but could be fit to face Madrid.

April 7, 2017 - Bild also reports that Neuer has now completed his first training since his foot operation and should be clear to face Madrid.

April 8, 2017 - Bayern face Dortmund and win 4-1. Ulreich starts in goal.

April 18, 2017 - It’s widely reported that Neuer picked up an injury at some point in the match vs Madrid and played through it. He leaves the stadium on crutches. SportBild: “Neuer suffered a serious injury to his foot. His season is over.”

April 19, 2017 - KHR says that Neuer will miss 8 weeks. This would put his return in mid-June 2017.

April 20, 2017 - Club confirms that Neuer fractured his foot vs Madrid - no surgery, but his season is done.

June 27, 2017 - SportBild reports that Neuer will be back for the start of preseason on July 1 but will NOT be training with the team just yet.

June 28, 2017 - FCB press release states that Neuer has been doing individual training since June 26th.

July 4, 2017 - SportBild reports Neuer’s injury was a “double fracture” which complicates and slows down the healing process

July 10, 2017 - after 12 weeks, Neuer is finally seen getting rid of his crutches (FCB Snapchat)

July 13, 2017 - Neuer is widely photographed at public trainings. He’s seen doing some individual training on the pitch, but nothing major - just in his tennis shoes.

July 18, 2017 - Ancelotti in press conference says Neuer will be good to go by the BL opener.

August 11, 2017 - In an interview with Sven Ulreich, he says he will play in the Pokal (August 12) but that Neuer will be starting in goal vs Leverkusen (August 18; Bundesliga opener)

August 17, 2017 - Ancelotti confirms that Neuer will not play vs Leverkusen: “Manuel Neuer will not be playing tomorrow. We will not take any risks.”

August 19, 2017 - Transfermarkt sets an estimated return date of August 31st.

August 21, 2017 - Neuer will make his return vs Werder Bremen on August 26th per TZ

August 26-September 17, 2017 - Neuer returns and plays in matches vs Werder Bremen, Hoffenheim, Mainz, Anderlecht, and Kickers Offenbach.

September 18, 2017 - Official Bayern statement says that Neuer suffered another foot injury and will miss game vs Schalke - More exams and final diagnosis to come. Multiple outlets report he’s broken the same foot he’d previously injured and it’s widely reported he’ll need surgery and will miss months.

September 19, 2017 - Club statement says Neuer will be out until January 2018. Neuer posts a photo of himself in the hospital and says that his operation went well.

September 20, 2017 - Bild reports that HWMW agreed to help Bayern in “complicated cases.” The choice of specialist who operated on Neuer was chosen at HWMW’s advice.

September 21, 2017 - Tom Starke comes out of retirement to return to help the club out at GK.

October 6, 2017 - TZ report that Neuer could be out “longer than expected. It could take up to six months”

November 8, 2017 - Bild report that Neuer’s recovery has been delayed and he’s expected to remain on crutches for four or five more weeks. It was initially reported that he’d only need to be on crutches for six weeks total.

November 14, 2017 - Transfermarkt estimate a projected return date of March 1st, 2018.

November 21, 2017 - KHR: “Neuer’s on the right track, things are going as our doctors have projected. He’ll soon be off crutches and start rehab. I don’t know if he’ll be back right at the start of the Rückrunde.”

December 10, 2017 - Neuer: “I won’t give any exact timetable on my return. But it’d be nice if I could say goodbye to these two friends (gestures to crutches) in time for Christmas…that’d be the best present.”

December 25, 2017 - Neuer is still on crutches per his own Instagram story.

December 29, 2017 - Interview with Jogi Löw: “The plan is that he’ll be able to train in February, maybe March. He certainly needs more time to recover. He’s the best keeper in the world, our captain, we absolutely need him.”

December 30, 2017 - Neuer is seen doing some individual rehab work without crutches for the first time (this marks roughly 14 weeks on crutches; initially projected to be on crutches for only 6 weeks) (Seen on FCB Snapchat)

January 3, 2018 - Brazzo: “Neuer’s dropped the crutches, but we’re not putting pressure on him. He’ll have all the time he needs to recover.”

January 26, 2018 - Neuer interview with FCB.tv. Q: “We want to know if you have a specific date for your comeback, possibly in March or maybe April?” A: “There is no specific date. We’ve got to play it safe and wait and see how my body handles the next few steps. But I am very optimistic and know I will play in the second half of the season.”

February 9, 2018 - Club confirms that Neuer has been given a short vacation to spend some time in warmer weather until February 18th while continuing to work on his rehab: “Manuel has made great progress towards his comeback over the last few weeks”. He ends up spending 10 days in Thailand.

February 19, 2018 - Bild photograph Neuer upon his return to Säbener Straße. “Still no specific comeback date, but his participation at the World Cup is not in danger.”

February 23, 2018 - Bild: “Neuer is back training with his goalkeeper gloves. SportBild: Neuer wants to resume training on the pitch in mid-to-late March and should come back into the squad by late April.

March 5, 2018 - Transfermarkt give an estimated return date of April 19th, 2018.

March 9, 2018 - Heynckes in presser: “[Neuer] has worked well to increase his workload. But I still can’t give a comeback date yet. He can’t take any risks.”

March 10, 2018 - Heynckes to TZ: “You’ll see if he’s back on the training ground in early April.”

March 14, 2018 - Heynckes in presser: “The perspective is positive. It’s looking very good. I think he should return in April.”

March 22, 2018 - Kicker: Neuer will be back running on the treadmill at 100% today (Note: a couple weeks prior, Neuer stated he was running on treadmill but only at 80% bodyweight). If all goes well, he could be back in goal next month (April).

March 23, 2018 - Neuer interview: “I’ve got to say that things are going well. Today is an emotional day for me because I was able to put full weight on my foot in three five-minute bursts and there was no reaction from the foot. Both feet felt the same! So it’s an important step for me. In my head, there’s no issue. I’m doing many exercises that are pushing me to my limit, but I have a fresh mind every day and I don’t have the pressure of playing in the Bundesliga, UCL, and Pokal every week. I just come to Säbener Straße and put in my six hours or so, then go to therapy and speak with the physics about my progress.”

March 27, 2018 - Bayern social medias post a photo of Neuer back outside running on the pitch

March 29, 2018 - It’s reported that Neuer has began training with the ball again for the first time since his injury.

April 2, 2018 - Video from Bild shows Neuer running on the pitch back in his footy boots for the first time (previously had just been in sneakers)

April 5, 2018 - FC Bayern social medias post photos of Neuer back in training with the ball.

April 6, 2018 - Heynckes: “I’ve watched Neuer in training and I’m very happy. He’s looking very good and his foot hasn’t shown any reactions either.”

April 7, 2018 - Brazzo in interview on Sky: “I’d be happy if he’d be able to play just a few matches for us this season.”

April 10, 2018 - Heynckes: “Manu’s situation is very positive. His injury is 100% healed, but now it’s about upping the intensity - step by step - then we’ll see when he can return. I’m confident it’ll happen this season still.”

April 20, 2018 - Heynckes confirms Neuer will take part in team training for first time since his injury: “Manu will complete the first few parts of training today” (FCB Twitter)

April 23, 2018 - it’s reported by the team that “Only Vidal, Coman, and Neuer missed the training session”

May 3, 2018 - Heynckes: “The game vs Köln is too soon. We’ll have another look next week.” Torben Hoffmann/Sky Sports: Neuer has completed some of the team training and is doing goalkeeper specific training with Tapalovic.

May 6, 2018 - Bild: Neuer had to take a pause in his rehab due to bone edema - a buildup of fluid - in his left foot. He had to take a 2-3 day rest, so no comeback vs Köln. Now, his participation vs Stuttgart is very doubtful.

May 8, 2018 - Neuer: “It’s going well; I’m feeling good, but I have to make the right decision for me, the team, and Germany. I want to get better each day and try to get fit as quickly as possible. We’ll see if it’s enough. I can’t say for certain. It’s hard to imagine playing at a tournament like the World Cup with no prior match practice.”

May 9, 2018 - Reported by Kicker: Heynckes says Neuer will not play vs Stuttgart nor in the DFB Pokal final. Club season over.

May 9, 2018 - Club issues a statement refuting Kicker’s report. Heynckes: “I didn’t say that. The fact is that Manuel won’t be in the squad for Saturday’s game vs Stuttgart. However, the decision is still open for the Pokal final.”

What a beautiful collection, thank you for the time you put into this! The irony is that while everyone is busy bashing HWMW in general, he's quite innocent in this matter. Chances are Neuer would have been back ages ago had Guardiola not driven off HWMW.

PS: I'd add that Bild wrote an article saying that if they decide to go for surgery he would be out "for at least 8 weeks". What pisses me off most was Kalle in late November giving us some hope of Manu being back in mid January. How irresponsible was that?

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MaCk0y wrote:

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I definitely agree you with this. But

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MUTU wrote:What a beautiful collection, thank you for the time you put into this! The irony is that while everyone is busy bashing HWMW in general, he's quite innocent in this matter. Chances are Neuer would have been back ages ago had Guardiola not driven off HWMW.

PS: I'd add that Bild wrote an article saying that if they decide to go for surgery he would be out "for at least 8 weeks". What pisses me off most was Kalle in late November giving us some hope of Manu being back in mid January. How irresponsible was that?

Was thinking the same thing... I've ridiculed HWMW myself lately... But: he USED to do a decent job and he was NOT the one delaying the surgery... He’s the one supposed to clean this shot up now... Also, he's not a surgeon...

There is probably some truth to both. As noted, by all accounts the surgeon who worked on Neuer after his second (or was it third or fourth?) setback was one of HWMW's choosing.
I suspect, as with many things...there's a bit of blame on both sides. That's the trouble with these medical issues. On one hand, there's no way to conclusively say "if we didn't have HWMW our players would heal up faster." On the other, we also can't really conclusively say "if HWMW were here, Neuer would be back by now". So it goes.

Keep in mind though that our trouble with the medical team isn't just Neuer

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MUTU wrote:What a beautiful collection, thank you for the time you put into this! The irony is that while everyone is busy bashing HWMW in general, he's quite innocent in this matter. Chances are Neuer would have been back ages ago had Guardiola not driven off HWMW.

PS: I'd add that Bild wrote an article saying that if they decide to go for surgery he would be out "for at least 8 weeks". What pisses me off most was Kalle in late November giving us some hope of Manu being back in mid January. How irresponsible was that?

Was thinking the same thing... I've ridiculed HWMW myself lately... But: he USED to do a decent job and he was NOT the one delaying the surgery... He’s the one supposed to clean this shot up now... Also, he's not a surgeon...

There is probably some truth to both. As noted, by all accounts the surgeon who worked on Neuer after his second (or was it third or fourth?) setback was one of HWMW's choosing.
I suspect, as with many things...there's a bit of blame on both sides. That's the trouble with these medical issues. On one hand, there's no way to conclusively say "if we didn't have HWMW our players would heal up faster." On the other, we also can't really conclusively say "if HWMW were here, Neuer would be back by now". So it goes.

Well, finding the absolute truth is almost impossible, but a good approximation can be gotten by appointing a special audit committee with independent expert council, which I think should definitely be done, even if it hurt HWMW's ego.

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