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RB624 wrote:^ I just don't think Low is smart enough to do it or even think of it.

He shouldn't tbh. There's no sportsmanship in it and Germany should always aim to win the group. But we can hope for an unplanned draw?

^If we're talking about colluding with N.Ireland, I agree with you 100%. If we're talking about trying to draw as opposed to trying to win, it's a little more of a gray area, but you're right and they shouldn't do that either.

But YES I will join you in hoping for the unplanned draw. I usually wouldn't take it that far and would hope Germany could beat whomever is in front of them, but I agree with most of the users here and think that they look dismal and have little chance of progressing against the big teams. However who's to say they can beat any of the next level teams? I'm sure a lot of people were pleased with Germany's opponents in '94 and '98 and look how they ended up. Maybe they can face Spain or Italy or France and use it as a wake-up call by either somehow winning or by losing badly and realizing that things are really broken.

FCBayernMunchen wrote:

RB624 wrote:^ I just don't think Low is smart enough to do it or even think of it.

He shouldn't tbh. There's no sportsmanship in it and Germany should always aim to win the group. But we can hope for an unplanned draw?

I highly doubt N. Ireland will pull a 180 and play offensive as opposed to their last two matches. So if we'll again see a 10 man defense then I doubt there's need for hoping for a draw. Not unless any of the germans pull a screamer from 25-35 metres up the pitch.

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Germany must beat Northern Ireland, plain and simple, there is no excuse. At the moment, no big team has looked convincing so far (including Spain) and out of those, Germany has the most room to improve. At the moment, if Germany win, looks like they will play Albania, Iceland, or Slovakia, although the latter two have yet to play the third match. If I recall correctly, German fans weren't so confident following a draw with Ghana, narrow win against USA, and extra time victory against Algeria in the world cup. Germany have been dismal so far, but it doesn't mean they can't improve.

FCB Puerto Rico wrote:Germany must beat Northern Ireland, plain and simple, there is no excuse. At the moment, no big team has looked convincing so far (including Spain) and out of those, Germany has the most room to improve. At the moment, if Germany win, looks like they will play Albania, Iceland, or Slovakia, although the latter two have yet to play the third match. If I recall correctly, German fans weren't so confident following a draw with Ghana, narrow win against USA, and extra time victory against Algeria in the world cup. Germany have been dismal so far, but it doesn't mean they can't improve.

How have Spain not looked convincing?

vigneshFCB wrote:

FCB Puerto Rico wrote:Germany must beat Northern Ireland, plain and simple, there is no excuse. At the moment, no big team has looked convincing so far (including Spain) and out of those, Germany has the most room to improve. At the moment, if Germany win, looks like they will play Albania, Iceland, or Slovakia, although the latter two have yet to play the third match. If I recall correctly, German fans weren't so confident following a draw with Ghana, narrow win against USA, and extra time victory against Algeria in the world cup. Germany have been dismal so far, but it doesn't mean they can't improve.

How have Spain not looked convincing?

They struggled to defeat a poor Czech team and Turkey play worse than Iceland, although they have the players to contest that group.

FCB Puerto Rico wrote:

vigneshFCB wrote:

FCB Puerto Rico wrote:Germany must beat Northern Ireland, plain and simple, there is no excuse. At the moment, no big team has looked convincing so far (including Spain) and out of those, Germany has the most room to improve. At the moment, if Germany win, looks like they will play Albania, Iceland, or Slovakia, although the latter two have yet to play the third match. If I recall correctly, German fans weren't so confident following a draw with Ghana, narrow win against USA, and extra time victory against Algeria in the world cup. Germany have been dismal so far, but it doesn't mean they can't improve.

How have Spain not looked convincing?

They struggled to defeat a poor Czech team and Turkey play worse than Iceland, although they have the players to contest that group.

But the poor Czech team drew 2-2 with an amazing Modric-Rakitic-Kovacic-Mandzukic-Perisic Croatia. They even almost outpossessed Croatia.

Spain had 75% possession ad 25 shots on goal. That's pure dominance which has not even been closely replicated, and Spain's comfortable clinicality Turkey tells me that Czech result was a freak, a one-off. It can sometimes occur that you only score once in a game totally dominated, even if you are the best team in the tournament. Bayern fans will know this.

Spain are the most technical and the best team in the tournament. Since their midfield should dominate anyone, if their attack fire Spain are comfortable favourites for EURO 2016.

ramsej84 wrote:

Germany will not get time on the ball, says N. Ireland’s Ward [source]

Well, if they'll take their time picking the ball from inside the net...

IMO a 1-0 for Germany should be considered very lucky.

ramsej84 wrote:

Germany will not get time on the ball, says N. Ireland’s Ward [source]

I surely hope so. Direct football it is

vigneshFCB wrote:Spain are the most technical and the best team in the tournament. Since their midfield should dominate anyone, if their attack fire Spain are comfortable favourites for EURO 2016.

This is actually what Germany might need: a team that takes the ball away and force them to a more direct style.

Essentially, Spain's midfield preys on teams that sit back and allow them to dictate; who does that remind you of? You guessed it, Germany. However, both teams like having the ball, and press each other to get it back, which is why those games tend to be tense and decided by 1 goal. Spain's attack in Nolito and Silva is, in my opinion, sub-par (not that ours has been good, anyway), and Morata is strong but not particularly fast so a strong defender like Boateng should be able to mark him well. Spain and Germany's styles are actually similar, the difference is Kroos hasn't had anyone particularly capable to pass it to like Iniesta has in Morata.