America USA wrote:MUTU wrote:Well, you may have contracted the disease over the forum, it's entirely possible. I would start with my GP first. If symptoms persist I would recommend a specialist.![]()
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Jokes aside. If the Germans go home in the Group Stage that has to be the end of Löw and his class of 2010 favorites!
tflags wrote:MUTU wrote:tflags wrote:There's nothing more important for a full back than speed; a measure of the highest priority. There should be, of course, non negotiable parameters such as stats for dribbled by, dispossession, etc, that would make Usain Bolt fail to qualify for fourth division. Having players with similar stats, offensive indexes for an attacking team such as assists for a team that overlaps as much as Germany does IS one of the defining factors as well.
Are you forgetting tackling? Interceptions? Marking?
The sweeper role is left solely to CBs, not full backs. Unless you are Neuer of course (a late sweeper) or early sweeper such as an inverted DM tasked with dispossessing Brazil for a 7-1. Interceptions, again, are stats more popular with CBs/DMs. Marking? Do you really log marking stats other than by observation or dispossession/blocking numbers?
Many of these defensive stats you mention are more important in CBs and DMs because you play in pairs where you have a back up. For a full back to try and intercept a pass and fail, the CB covering for your place spells a doomy outlook.
MUTU wrote:America USA wrote:Have a gut feeling that Sweden will beat Germany 1-0 or 2-1. I just cannot see a starting eleven comprising of Ozil, Muller, Khedira and Boateng turning it around!
You're starting to sound like #12.
MUTU wrote:America USA wrote:MUTU wrote:Well, you may have contracted the disease over the forum, it's entirely possible. I would start with my GP first. If symptoms persist I would recommend a specialist.![]()
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Jokes aside. If the Germans go home in the Group Stage that has to be the end of Löw and his class of 2010 favorites!
Ironically enough, he's just extended.
MUTU wrote:Well, for me speed and assists are attributes I'd normally associate with a winger not with a full back.
For example, Lahm had a low amount of assists and he was only really fast when he was young: was he not a good full back?
tflags wrote:MUTU wrote:Well, for me speed and assists are attributes I'd normally associate with a winger not with a full back.
For example, Lahm had a low amount of assists and he was only really fast when he was young: was he not a good full back?
You just answered your question. Speed is crucial in full backs exactly because speed is, along with crossing and dribbling, a winger's top priority.
Lahm was so tactically astute he knew when he could go forward and be supported by a DM and when to stay around midfield. This for a player whose overlapping counterpart played one legged. But he wasn't exactly a turtle either now was he?
MUTU wrote:For me Lahm was a top player not because of his speed but because of his general defensive attributes (especially his sliding tackles).
tflags wrote:MUTU wrote:For me Lahm was a top player not because of his speed but because of his general defensive attributes (especially his sliding tackles).
Sliding tackles. A resource used by players arriving late at the scene . . .
RB624 wrote:tflags wrote:MUTU wrote:For me Lahm was a top player not because of his speed but because of his general defensive attributes (especially his sliding tackles).
Sliding tackles. A resource used by players arriving late at the scene . . .
Unfair critique. There are a lot of reasons to slide tackle: having to cover two men, or having to track back quickly after attacking, or moving over to cover for someone else, etc.
Plus, slide enough and you can really throw the opposition of their game. The 1990 World Cup team would never tackle standing up when they had enough room to slide - Brehme, Reuter, Kohler, Augenthaler, Berthold - all master-sliders.
Manchu wrote:three fast players(Hector, Sule, Brandt)
RB624 wrote:tflags wrote:MUTU wrote:For me Lahm was a top player not because of his speed but because of his general defensive attributes (especially his sliding tackles).
Sliding tackles. A resource used by players arriving late at the scene . . .
Unfair critique.
MUTU wrote:Manchu wrote:three fast players(Hector, Sule, Brandt)
Hardly fast... especially Suele's slow acceleration.
Anyway I like your lineup even though I'd prefer a more offensive role for Kimmich who assists a lot.
MUTU wrote:His acceleration is poor, symptom of his height. His top speed is decent.
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