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[2018-09-09] Germany vs Peru

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What is your prediction for this match?

Poll ended at Sun Sep 09, 2018 7:45 pm

Germany will win
3
75%
It will end in a draw
1
25%
Peru will win
0
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Total votes : 4

Re: [2018-09-09] Germany vs Peru

Postby theundead » Sun Sep 09, 2018 8:43 pm

Ter stegen better than Neuer. Lol
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Re: [2018-09-09] Germany vs Peru

Postby MUTU » Sun Sep 09, 2018 9:30 pm

Debut goal for Schulz.
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Re: [2018-09-09] Germany vs Peru

Postby ramsej84 » Sun Sep 09, 2018 9:31 pm

MUTU wrote:Debut goal for Schulz.
Wow
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Re: [2018-09-09] Germany vs Peru

Postby MUTU » Sun Sep 09, 2018 9:40 pm

ramsej84 wrote:
MUTU wrote:Debut goal for Schulz.
Wow

I think he shot wide but the keeper deviated it in :mrgreen:

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6td3bd
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Re: [2018-09-09] Germany vs Peru

Postby IsiahRashad » Sun Sep 09, 2018 9:40 pm

Wow.. Impotent football in the second half, Peru are CLEARLY the better team after the halftime.

I don't know what Löw wants to change , but the team has nothing to do with the 2014 WC winning Germany. The goal of Shulz was the only good thing that the team did. The team woke up after the 85th minute.

The midfield is solid, but again, playing Kimmich is not the best choice at all. Gundogan is playing beautiful while given a chance, he and Kroos should control the midfield.

I don't expect anything from the team in the future. Löw is failing with the transition, the style of play is too safe, trying to control anything, the team do not have enough sharp players to make difference alone, and all of leaders of the team are going to be 30+ in 2 years.

Yes, it's (almost) the same thing with Bayern.
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Re: [2018-09-09] Germany vs Peru

Postby ramsej84 » Sun Sep 09, 2018 9:47 pm

MUTU wrote:
ramsej84 wrote:
MUTU wrote:Debut goal for Schulz.
Wow

I think he shot wide but the keeper deviated it in :mrgreen:

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6td3bd
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Re: [2018-09-09] Germany vs Peru

Postby Manchu » Sun Sep 09, 2018 9:51 pm

Once, long ago, God created a defender with the property of anti-buildup, which guaranteed that anytime he got the ball, no matter how favorable the circumstances, the play would end with his goalkeeper having to boot the ball far. God named him Antonio Rudiger.

Once, long ago, God created a midfielder with the property of anti-chance creation, which guaranteed that anytime he got the ball, no matter how favorable the circumstances were for goal scoring, the ball would either end up caught in the corner or passed back to the defense with the chance wasted. God named him Julian Draxler.

Thus, one can understand why such creatures exist. What is beyond one's comprehension is why they continue to get significant playing time for the German National Team.
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Re: [2018-09-09] Germany vs Peru

Postby FCB12Forever » Mon Sep 10, 2018 2:50 am

Draxler: He has the same agent with Max Meyer (ROGON). They had the same circumstance: get a salary of 15m at an age of 21 or 22, then sleep on it. 15m of salary, they won't have a chance to move to other teams unless they agree to significantly lower their pay.

Take home lesson: Stay the F**k away from ROGON players.
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Re: [2018-09-09] Germany vs Peru

Postby Manchu » Mon Sep 10, 2018 4:28 am

IsiahRashad wrote:
Yes, it's (almost) the same thing with Bayern.

I don't think that's fair to Bayern at all. Yes, we have some problems, but the team still has plenty of ideas, has excellent organization on the field, and always has some idea about how it's going to break through the opponent's defense and get in the goal. Furthermore, unlike the NT, we're always able to build up play at least to the edge of our opponents box, and, although Robbery receive some excessive protection, the amount they get is nothing compared to the amount Werner gets.

With Kovac, I always see a plan. With Low, I don't see anything other than randomly sticking players in positions which don't suit them and seeing what happens.
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Re: [2018-09-09] Germany vs Peru

Postby FCB12Forever » Mon Sep 10, 2018 4:33 am

If they still refuse to change the playing system and add a decent CF (doesn't need to be too talented!), germany will soon be on par with Armenia.

Manchu wrote: With Low, I don't see anything other than randomly sticking players in positions which don't suit them and seeing what happens.



And compared to Bayern who play >20 games before December the NT do not really have that many chances to "see what happens". Imagine getting 3 more L's in the NL and I'll see you in league B next year.
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Re: [2018-09-09] Germany vs Peru

Postby Manchu » Mon Sep 10, 2018 5:48 am

FCB12Forever wrote:If they still refuse to change the playing system and add a decent CF (doesn't need to be too talented!), germany will soon be on par with Armenia.

And it's not like the options are that bad. If we ignore my preferred solution(Low manning up and asking Wagner to come out of retirement), we have Mark Uth(very successful in the Bundesliga), Davie Selke(very successful with the U21 NT), and Marvin Ducksch(very successful on a dominant team in the 2.Bundesliga last season and basically a mini-Lewandowski in play-style) all offering something different and much more multi-dimensional than Werner.* If they're all given a chance, I think at least one will prove to be a decent choice.

*Even Low seems to have realized that Werner can't lead the line. His solution, however, to throw Reus in as CF is just repeating what has not worked for Dortmund.
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Re: [2018-09-09] Germany vs Peru

Postby FCB12Forever » Mon Sep 10, 2018 6:03 am

Manchu wrote:And it's not like the options are that bad. If we ignore my preferred solution(Low manning up and asking Wagner to come out of retirement), we have Mark Uth(very successful in the Bundesliga), Davie Selke(very successful with the U21 NT), and Marvin Ducksch(very successful on a dominant team in the 2.Bundesliga last season and basically a mini-Lewandowski in play-style) all offering something different and much more multi-dimensional than Werner.* If they're all given a chance, I think at least one will prove to be a decent choice.


I think apart from these options, Niclas Fullkrug from Hannover is a decent choice as well. He scored 14 goals last season (almost all in the Ruckrund), very physical (look at his muscles!) and very good headers. He has good mentality from what I have seen, he once broke his teeth when trying to get a header one or two years ago.
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Re: [2018-09-09] Germany vs Peru

Postby ramsej84 » Mon Sep 10, 2018 7:01 am

And probably he still misses that tooth
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Re: [2018-09-09] Germany vs Peru

Postby MaCk0y » Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:55 am

MUTU wrote:
ramsej84 wrote:
MUTU wrote:Debut goal for Schulz.
Wow

I think he shot wide but the keeper deviated it in :mrgreen:

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6td3bd


That's no debut goal for Schulz. Should count as an OG. :lol:
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Re: [2018-09-09] Germany vs Peru

Postby YlonenXabi » Mon Sep 10, 2018 12:54 pm

Werner can't score to a rainbow. It's really annoying. Specially because whenever he plays against Bayern he becomes Roy Makaay for 90 minutes.

Julian Brandt is certainly doing very well and I hope to see Gnabry in the team soon :)
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