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[2019-09-06] Germany vs Netherlands

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What is your prediction for this match?

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Germany will win
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It will end in a draw
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Netherlands will win
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Re: [2019-09-06] Germany vs Netherlands

Postby #12 » Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:51 pm

ramsej84 wrote:So Serge missed our game and this old prick is going to deploy him from the start...

He and the dfb should be held responsible ...


He just literally said your -average- favorite boy was one of his most important players ("always plays with me") - only you can find a way to make this a bad thing because of your bias...
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Re: [2019-09-06] Germany vs Netherlands

Postby ramsej84 » Thu Sep 05, 2019 1:57 pm

how so ? NO... I bring FC Bayern first ... to hell the National team , sorry.
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Re: [2019-09-06] Germany vs Netherlands

Postby #12 » Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:05 pm

ramsej84 wrote:how so ? NO... I bring FC Bayern first ... to hell the National team , sorry.


Fair enough... But you can make that claim if and when something actually happens (which in a world with a competent management would mean one of our subs would be injured...)...
We have a lot of other NT poayers too, you know?!
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Re: [2019-09-06] Germany vs Netherlands

Postby ramsej84 » Thu Sep 05, 2019 2:12 pm

I am protesting cause he was not fully fit , so it is not fair to be risked.... he should have stayed home to make a full recovery.
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Re: [2019-09-06] Germany vs Netherlands

Postby #12 » Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:12 pm

Don’t you think he's old enough to know that? Plus all the medical attention... I doubt he would be "risked"...
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Re: [2019-09-06] Germany vs Netherlands

Postby Jorge » Fri Sep 06, 2019 12:41 pm

#12 wrote:Don’t you think he's old enough to know that? Plus all the medical attention... I doubt he would be "risked"...

Maybe it was so minor that he is fully fit now. He wasn't really needed for Bayern but against The Netherlands, Germany does not have many options
The bad side is that if he injures himself in a way that keeps out of Bayern's game vs Leipzig where he is needed we are going to look at this game that way, but the good side is that Serge does not have too many opportunities to play against meaningful opposition in back to back games. This is the type of scenario that builds the player's character.
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Re: [2019-09-06] Germany vs Netherlands

Postby bmguy » Fri Sep 06, 2019 1:48 pm

YlonenXabi wrote:Image


I still don't like it, but Kimmich as CM with the NT makes much more sense than with Bayern.


Germany doesn't have a #9 and don't rely on wing play that much. Yes, both fullbacks can join attack and create 2v1's but the team is not heavily dependent on crosses.

But with Bayern we have a wing based system, we have Lewandowski and we play plenty of crosses every game. Kimmich is a must as RB.


Don't you think pavard can cross? He did well in the last match
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Re: [2019-09-06] Germany vs Netherlands

Postby IsiahRashad » Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:59 pm

Tah, Süle and Ginter as a back 3. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Re: [2019-09-06] Germany vs Netherlands

Postby ramsej84 » Fri Sep 06, 2019 5:17 pm

Why not a 4-2-2-2 ?

Werner & Serge up front
Havertz & Reus behind them
Can & Kroos

and a back four of Klostermann / Schulz Tah Sule Kimmich
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Re: [2019-09-06] Germany vs Netherlands

Postby r10 » Fri Sep 06, 2019 5:23 pm

Squad looks as 3:4 or 4:3 expected =P~
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Re: [2019-09-06] Germany vs Netherlands

Postby ramsej84 » Fri Sep 06, 2019 6:27 pm

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Re: [2019-09-06] Germany vs Netherlands

Postby Jorge » Fri Sep 06, 2019 7:13 pm

With 3 on the back it is hard to establish the rest of the formation. The wingbacks can act as defenders when needed, if one drops, then you have 4 on the back, if both drop then you have 5 on the back. This is how Germany played in the 70's, 80's and part of the 90's except that on the 3 in the center was a libero, sweeping behind the (2) centerbacks in defensive mode, while bursting forward through the center on offensive mode, but the wingbacks worked the same way. There is some beauty in that system that could be adapted to today's game when backpass is not allowed so there is no need for a sweeper, with the right players it can be fluid and efficient. The problem is that Germany do not have the same type of players.
Think of the 1990 WC Champions with Augenthaler as libero, Kohler and Buchwald on central defense, Brehme and Berthold (or Reuter) as wingbacks. These players now look like schoolboys.
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Re: [2019-09-06] Germany vs Netherlands

Postby MUTU » Fri Sep 06, 2019 7:25 pm

Jorge wrote:Think of the 1990 WC Champions with Augenthaler as libero, Kohler and Buchwald on central defense, Brehme and Berthold (or Reuter) as wingbacks. These players now look like schoolboys.



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Re: [2019-09-06] Germany vs Netherlands

Postby ramsej84 » Fri Sep 06, 2019 7:43 pm

Germans booing the Dutch national anthem...

Where is this being played?
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Re: [2019-09-06] Germany vs Netherlands

Postby MUTU » Fri Sep 06, 2019 7:57 pm

What a pass by Kimmich! Give him the Ballon d'Or!
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