MUTU wrote:
bmguy wrote:it's not only his fault, bundesliga have no longer produced good attacking players
Lukas wrote:Won't be watching. Third Germany match in a row I have no interest in. Hope the dutch humiliate them again though
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America USA wrote:bmguy wrote:it's not only his fault, bundesliga have no longer produced good attacking players
Germany still have decent enough players to NOT finish bottom of a World Cup Group that included Korea and Mexico and to NOT get relegated.
See my second post on Page No. 217 in the General German National Team Discussion Thread. Germany have pretty damn good players to play quick vertical football with a back three system. There’s enough pace and talented forwards to score and defensive solidity to win. However, it is Löw’s fault for his bullshit high line tactics (with slow CBs and the FBs playing near the opponents goal) and mindless possession with backwards and sideways passing with no forward looking passes. Löw is an incompetent fraud. Germany won the 2014 World Cup despite him not because of him. The brainiac tried to screw it up at the beginning with Lahm in midfield and Götze as false 9. With the talent that Germany had between 2008-2016, Germany really should’ve won one Euro. 2012 loss to Italy is on him although the 2016 defeat can be attributed to various factors.
I keep reading your posts about how Germany have pathetic attacking players yet yesterday Mbappe and Griezmann flopped hard! Netherlands’ Depay who was considered finished has turned it around. Spain are doing nothing with guys like Saul, Asensio, Pedro and Costa in attack.
IMO Germany is still producing decent enough talent (maybe not Messi level if that’s your definition of the Gold Standard for “good attacking players”) to compete at the very top level in major tournaments. Just a few positions need to be fixed before the Mannschaft can challenge France, Belgium, Spain, etc.
bmguy wrote:Maybe you forgot that at the wc time, Gnabry was injured, Sane was given time to adapt to the team playing style but he couldn't make it in time. What else on the wing Loew could have called up, nothing. Mark Uth might not be better than Gomez and at such a big stage, it's too risky to roll a luck without any trial. And with the ozil nonsense turmoil, you cannot concentrate enough at such high intense tournament.
Yes, I agree, Loew was responsible for some of his weird team picks and his outdated playing style, but do you have any other nominees to replace him at the moment ? All decent German coaches are not available and not yet ready for the job. maybe a guy from U21 team but it's such a risk that noone dares to take.
bmguy wrote:The fact that teams in the country are afraid of giving opportunities to youngsters become a norm nowadays. Look at what Hamburg have done to Arp and former Bayern Wintzheimer, they still put faith on a Lasogga who was one of their biggest culprits to fail last year.
Someone like Jadon Sancho or Jovic phenomenon is almost nonexisting in german football.
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