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[2018-06-17] Germany vs Mexico

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What is your prediction for this match?

Poll ended at Sun Jun 17, 2018 4:00 pm

Germany will win
6
75%
It will end in a draw
0
No votes
Mexico will win
2
25%
 
Total votes : 8

Re: [2018-06-17] Germany vs Mexico

Postby Valerio » Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:40 pm

gumboduncan wrote:
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PunkCapitalist wrote:Wtf is German defense so bad???

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Imo the problem is Khedira and Ozil. Defenders not doing badly but too many chances allowed


Completely agree. Khedira is not at the same level as back in 2014. Özil is too slow and doesn't work for the team. I've never been able to understand why Löw keeps playing him all the time. Sure he's a game changer, but over a 90 min game he's too much of a passanger IMO.

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Re: [2018-06-17] Germany vs Mexico

Postby PunkCapitalist » Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:41 pm

Valerio wrote:you should read juventus fans comments on Khedira XD
http://www.juventuz.com/threads/41222-S ... ra/page287
Lol.

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Re: [2018-06-17] Germany vs Mexico

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:42 pm

gumboduncan wrote:
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PunkCapitalist wrote:Wtf is German defense so bad???

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Imo the problem is Khedira and Ozil. Defenders not doing badly but too many chances allowed


Completely agree. Khedira is not at the same level as back in 2014. Özil is too slow and doesn't work for the team. I've never been able to understand why Löw keeps playing him all the time. Sure he's a game changer, but over a 90 min game he's too much of a passanger IMO.

Dunno when the last time he changed a game was either...
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Re: [2018-06-17] Germany vs Mexico

Postby gumboduncan » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:01 pm

What I'm trying to say is that Özil can make that special pass to open up the defense. Since his arrival at Arsenal, he's the top assist maker in the Premier League. That's pretty good. But, I'd like to see Müller play at the AM position next game and Reus at the RW.
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Re: [2018-06-17] Germany vs Mexico

Postby Dumbledore7 » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:08 pm

IsiahRashad wrote:Is this Thomas or its Nikolai Muller from Hamburger ?

Thomas. Nicolai is better.
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Re: [2018-06-17] Germany vs Mexico

Postby IsiahRashad » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:15 pm

Dumbledore7 wrote:
IsiahRashad wrote:Is this Thomas or its Nikolai Muller from Hamburger ?

Thomas. Nicolai is better.
If Muller don't pick his shit up, I just cannot see him starting in Bayern next season. With James being the AM and Rummenigge comments that Gnabry is going to play important role in the next season - putting him on the wing with Coman, and with that crowded midfield.. Invisible in the last 2 years in CL (even worse after the Besiktas games), I feel like we're playing without winger when he occupiers the RW.

He will start for Germany at the moment, of course, but seeing him that toothless in his favorite competition will hurt.
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Re: [2018-06-17] Germany vs Mexico

Postby AvatarX » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:21 pm

I really missed Bastian today. He really gave our mid the stability, power and passion needed.

Kroos alone is not enough. He needs another strong player to help him and Khedira seemed a bit off.

Personally I would put Goretska and Reus in instead of Khedira and Draxler. And maybe Gomez but with Werner instead of Oezil.

Muller? Come on. He was off today, but he is our current WC top scorer.

Anyways, if we needed to have one game off, it's better today than knockout rounds. Afterall we had many chances and we could have drawn or win.

I hope we get better and lose this arrogance we seem to have.
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Re: [2018-06-17] Germany vs Mexico

Postby America USA » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:27 pm

Arrogance is right. Look at what Löw said before the game:

. . . We’ve won many opening games in the past. In my time here, we’ve previously had issues in friendlies or training but everything we do is focused on the first game . . .

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Re: [2018-06-17] Germany vs Mexico

Postby JJJ » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:32 pm

PunkCapitalist wrote:
Valerio wrote:you should read juventus fans comments on Khedira XD
http://www.juventuz.com/threads/41222-S ... ra/page287
Lol.

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Re: [2018-06-17] Germany vs Mexico

Postby pabloenigma » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:54 pm

The ineffective right side with muller and kimmich looks too much like Bayern

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Re: [2018-06-17] Germany vs Mexico

Postby YlonenXabi » Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:05 pm

But now there is no Lewy to be the scapegoat :wink:
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Re: [2018-06-17] Germany vs Mexico

Postby IsiahRashad » Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:18 pm

Hummels angry over the defensive contribution of other players: If 7 or 8 men play in attack, then there will be lack of defensive stability. We were often just me and Jerome defending.I don't quite understand why we played this way today. We made it too easy for them. We have played like we did against Saudi Arabia, but today we were up against a better opponent. Mexico deserved their win. We have to improve, and quickly.

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Re: [2018-06-17] Germany vs Mexico

Postby nm462272 » Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:32 pm

Have been feeling like the mental part of Germany's game has been missing in the lead up to the tournament... Tough games against otherwise easy opponents (Austria and Saudi), the brainless Erdogan controversy, questionable team selection by Löw, and now apparently teammates starting to call each other/the coach out. None of this bodes well for a deep run into the tournament... Not to mention a supreme lack of leadership on the field

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Re: [2018-06-17] Germany vs Mexico

Postby #12 » Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:35 pm

Man, I bet Christian Falk would be happy to have a „Chefchen“ on the field now!

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Re: [2018-06-17] Germany vs Mexico

Postby nm462272 » Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:47 pm

#12 wrote:Man, I bet Christian Falk would be happy to have a „Chefchen“ on the field now!

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We're really missing him now... We don't appreciate what we have til it's gone...

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