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gastarana · by **gastarana** » Wed May 30, 2012 5:54 am

mates, i hate to say it but STOP WITH THE FUCK!NG NAZI-HOLOCAUST THEME :twisted:

FCBayernMunchen · by **FCBayernMunchen** » Wed May 30, 2012 7:00 am

MUTU wrote:it is very common for me to be labelled a Nazi just for supporting Germany and Bayern

Never been called a Nazi before.... I do hear Hitler's name a lot though

MUTU · by **MUTU** » Wed May 30, 2012 8:29 am

Do we have any clues on the starting lineup for this one?

BayernLove · by **BayernLove** » Wed May 30, 2012 8:42 am

I'm just going to predict a 4-2-3-1 and hope for the best.
I'm gonna predict anyway:
-------------------------Neuer---------------------Pope Benedikt-Hummels-Stuber-Lahm
-------------Khedira-----Schweini-------------
-------Reus--------Özil--------Podolski------
-------------Klose/Gomez/Shürrle-----------
I hope this is our lineup, I do believe it is our full strength line-up.

kiam307 · by **kiam307** » Wed May 30, 2012 9:48 am

BayernLove wrote:I'm just going to predict a 4-2-3-1 and hope for the best.
I'm gonna predict anyway:
-------------------------Neuer---------------------Pope Benedikt-Hummels-Stuber-Lahm
-------------Khedira-----Schweini-------------
-------Reus--------Özil--------Podolski------
-------------Klose/Gomez/Shürrle-----------
I hope this is our lineup, I do believe it is our full strength line-up.

AFAIK Schweini isn't gonna play

JJJ · by **JJJ** » Wed May 30, 2012 10:14 am

I'm sure that Müller's going to play.

by **tflags** » Wed May 30, 2012 11:00 am

FCBayernMunchen wrote:
MUTU wrote:it is very common for me to be labelled a Nazi just for supporting Germany and Bayern

Never been called a Nazi before.... I do hear Hitler's name a lot though

Then again you can always set them straight and pose as a historian/connoisseur at the same time: "The Bayern Munich and its Jews: The Rise and destruction of a liberal football culture"; available here: http://www.amazon.de/Der-Bayern-seine-J ... 3895337811

It is a must-read for any German speaking fan. For the rest of us, there is this small review from Honigstein, who turns out to prove than there is more to football than goals and coins:

Honigstein wrote:Bayern were founded in the bohemian quarter of Schwabing, and were very much a Jewish club before the second world war, with a Jewish president and a Jewish manager. As a consequence, Bayern were targeted by the Nazis but players and officials continued to defy the regime with small acts of personal courage. "All those things were forgotten in the post-war years," said Dietrich Schulze-Marmeling, the author of 2011's award-winning Der FC Bayern und seine Juden (FC Bayern and their Jews). "Bayern's success in the 60s and 70s submerged the past, and West German society on the whole only started to look back at the Holocaust in earnest in 1979, in any case."

On the club's founding charter from 1900, two out of 17 signatories were Jewish. One of them, the Dortmund-born artist Benno Elkan, would later emigrate to London and become a prominent sculptor: on commission from Westminster, he built the seven-branched Candelabra (Menorah) that stands outside the Israeli parliament in Jerusalem. From 1911, Bayern were led by Kurt Landauer, the son of a wealthy Jewish businessman, and the team were coached by a succession of Jewish coaches, including the Austro‑Hungarian Richard "Little" Dombi, who went on to manage Barcelona and Feyenoord. Landauer's commitment and Dombi's knowhow secured a first German championship for Bayern in 1932. Landauer had to resign, along with a number of other Jewish members and officials, when Hitler seized power a few months later and fled to Switzerland after 33 days in the Dachau concentration camp.

mjun5000 · by **mjun5000** » Wed May 30, 2012 12:14 pm

MUTU wrote:Do we have any clues on the starting lineup for this one?

Jogi said in the press conference that Lahm would probably be playing LB and Boateng RB. But it supposedly means nothing for the actual Euro....

bayern196 · by **bayern196** » Wed May 30, 2012 12:24 pm

definite least 3:0

(Müller will score.)

bayern196 · by **bayern196** » Thu May 31, 2012 1:16 pm

unlucky jews

it's a pity...

AvatarX · by **AvatarX** » Thu May 31, 2012 1:35 pm

I hope we won't play with that unlucky green shirt.

BayernLove · by **BayernLove** » Thu May 31, 2012 4:08 pm

Anyone got a stream for this?

YlonenXabi · by **YlonenXabi** » Thu May 31, 2012 5:46 pm

Schweini is injured :shock:

according to Bild Kroos will play

CroCHEF · by **CroCHEF** » Thu May 31, 2012 5:56 pm

YlonenXabi wrote:Schweini is injured

yea, he have some small problems from final

AvatarX · by **AvatarX** » Thu May 31, 2012 6:34 pm

bayern196 wrote:definite least 3:0

Israel is not that bad, but 3-0 is doable.

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