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[2021-06-15] Germany vs France

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What is your prediction for this match?

Poll ended at Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:00 pm

Germany will win
3
43%
It will end in a draw
0
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France will win
4
57%
 
Total votes : 7

Re: [2021-06-15] Germany vs France

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:45 am

So more or less around 7-9 out of 22 players in the starting lineups will be Bayern players. :coffee:
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Re: [2021-06-15] Germany vs France

Postby YlonenXabi » Tue Jun 15, 2021 12:33 pm

ramsej84 wrote:Kimmich vs Mbappe is probably the reason why Loew opted for him as the RWB who will also have Ginter to deal with



I don't think so


The reasons are:

1- Germany don't have a competent RB
2- Kroos, Gündogan and Kimmich are top players and that's the only reasonable way to fit the 3 of them in the line up
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Re: [2021-06-15] Germany vs France

Postby ramsej84 » Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:07 pm

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Re: [2021-06-15] Germany vs France

Postby Ottomeister87 » Tue Jun 15, 2021 1:22 pm

YlonenXabi wrote:
ramsej84 wrote:Kimmich vs Mbappe is probably the reason why Loew opted for him as the RWB who will also have Ginter to deal with



I don't think so


The reasons are:

1- Germany don't have a competent RB
2- Kroos, Gündogan and Kimmich are top players and that's the only reasonable way to fit the 3 of them in the line up


They do actually in Kimmich.. With the speed Mbappe brings, it wouldnt be that bad to have Kimmich and his positioning there, can make a lot of that Mbappe speed go away.
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Re: [2021-06-15] Germany vs France

Postby PunkCapitalist » Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:36 pm

Kimmich is not actually a good defender tho
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Re: [2021-06-15] Germany vs France

Postby ramsej84 » Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:38 pm

PunkCapitalist wrote:Kimmich is not actually a good defender tho
So according to you what is he good at ? As you don't like him in MDF either.
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Re: [2021-06-15] Germany vs France

Postby PunkCapitalist » Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:40 pm

ramsej84 wrote:
PunkCapitalist wrote:Kimmich is not actually a good defender tho
So according to you what is he good at ? As you don't like him in MDF either.
He is good at the attacking phase, both as a RB and as a MF. He isn't anything to call home about in the defensive phase in either position.
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Re: [2021-06-15] Germany vs France

Postby ramsej84 » Tue Jun 15, 2021 3:50 pm

PunkCapitalist wrote:
ramsej84 wrote:
PunkCapitalist wrote:Kimmich is not actually a good defender tho
So according to you what is he good at ? As you don't like him in MDF either.
He is good at the attacking phase, both as a RB and as a MF. He isn't anything to call home about in the defensive phase in either position.
Yes and no...
Maybe you see him as an #8...

Thing is that if he performs well and Germany does well I fear that Nagelsmann will put him in that position and he will rebel and leave
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Re: [2021-06-15] Germany vs France

Postby PunkCapitalist » Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:01 pm

ramsej84 wrote:
PunkCapitalist wrote:
ramsej84 wrote:[quote="PunkCapitalist"]Kimmich is not actually a good defender tho
So according to you what is he good at ? As you don't like him in MDF either.
He is good at the attacking phase, both as a RB and as a MF. He isn't anything to call home about in the defensive phase in either position.
Yes and no...
Maybe you see him as an #8...

Thing is that if he performs well and Germany does well I fear that Nagelsmann will put him in that position and he will rebel and leave[/quote]Would you want a player that leaves because he is played at a different position from that he likes? I mean you're the local disciplinarian..
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Re: [2021-06-15] Germany vs France

Postby ramsej84 » Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:13 pm

PunkCapitalist wrote:
ramsej84 wrote:
PunkCapitalist wrote:[quote="ramsej84"][quote="PunkCapitalist"]Kimmich is not actually a good defender tho
So according to you what is he good at ? As you don't like him in MDF either.
He is good at the attacking phase, both as a RB and as a MF. He isn't anything to call home about in the defensive phase in either position.
Yes and no...
Maybe you see him as an #8...

Thing is that if he performs well and Germany does well I fear that Nagelsmann will put him in that position and he will rebel and leave[/quote]Would you want a player that leaves because he is played at a different position from that he likes? I mean you're the local disciplinarian..[/quote]Thing is that he has settled in that pos nicely.
Not to mention his excellent chemistry with Leon
Plus what I want is irrelevant
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Re: [2021-06-15] Germany vs France

Postby ramsej84 » Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:42 pm

Fuck off already Loew

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Re: [2021-06-15] Germany vs France

Postby Ottomeister87 » Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:42 pm

PunkCapitalist wrote:Kimmich is not actually a good defender tho


That may be, in certain situations he lacks the speed there aswell. But still 10 times better compared to anything else Germany has on that position. So in fact, he IS the best RB Germany has.
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Re: [2021-06-15] Germany vs France

Postby PunkCapitalist » Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:55 pm

Ottomeister87 wrote:
PunkCapitalist wrote:Kimmich is not actually a good defender tho


That may be, in certain situations he lacks the speed there aswell. But still 10 times better compared to anything else Germany has on that position. So in fact, he IS the best RB Germany has.
Yeah. You're right on that.

Random thought, but i think Ginter did great as a RB once upon a time under Tuchel. It's a shame no one even tried that afterwards.
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Re: [2021-06-15] Germany vs France

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:07 pm

ramsej84 wrote:Fuck off already Loew

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I disagree but I’m not surprised. Musiala will very likely not get any minutes but good for him to be there.
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Re: [2021-06-15] Germany vs France

Postby MUTU » Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:08 pm

Musiala has a small muscular injury. In fact all 3 players are struggling with injuries or fitness after injury. Loew is right.
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