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Should Joachim Löw remain the German coach?

Yes, he is a great coach.
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Yes, because at the moment there's not many options.
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No, he should resign as Germany needs a new direction.
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No, he should be fired as he's doing a terrible job.
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Re: General German national team thread

Postby MUTU » Thu Aug 29, 2019 2:24 pm

Yes that defence is looking quite weak. Really ridiculous that Hummels isn't being called.
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Re: General German national team thread

Postby Jorge » Tue Sep 03, 2019 3:17 am

MUTU wrote:Yes that defence is looking quite weak. Really ridiculous that Hummels isn't being called.


I doubt that Löw is going to backpedal the decision to retire Hummels, Boateng and Muller. Unless that he has a crisis he will stick with trying new players and giving a chance to some that have been on the fringes for the last few years.
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Re: General German national team thread

Postby ramsej84 » Tue Sep 03, 2019 6:54 am

Tah is the new Boateng... I really admired his leadership skills during the U21 tournament
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Re: General German national team thread

Postby ramsej84 » Thu Sep 05, 2019 4:28 pm

Without Sane...

Neuer

Kimmich Suele Tah Klostermann

Can Kroos

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Re: General German national team thread

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Re: General German national team thread

Postby ramsej84 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:21 pm

What did Neuer say?
Whatever he said he should be ashamed of himself for accepting the #1 in Russia.
MATS had a tremendous season and Neuer was absent the whole yr.
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Re: General German national team thread

Postby MUTU » Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:28 pm

ramsej84 wrote:What did Neuer say?
Whatever he said he should be ashamed of himself for accepting the #1 in Russia.
MATS had a tremendous season and Neuer was absent the whole yr.

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Neuer is the greatest of all time. And he performed well in Russia, apart from when he went out to attack against Korea and lost the ball. But at least he conceded trying, which MATS wouldn't have done anyway.

But it's not just that, Neuer exudes confidence in the players in front of him like no other keeper I've ever seen. No keeper is able to make his defenders feel so safe playing a high defence line as does Neuer. No one, ever.

So even a Neuer in a shit form is still giving a great contribution to his team. And he's far from a shit form lately.

MATS is a complete nobody compared to Neuer. It's not even close to a Kahn vs Lehmann situation.
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Re: General German national team thread

Postby ramsej84 » Tue Sep 17, 2019 6:38 am

What are your thoughts of Loew choosing an out of form keeper over a keeper who had a very good season to start at the world cup?
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Re: General German national team thread

Postby MUTU » Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:24 am

ramsej84 wrote:What are your thoughts of Loew choosing an out of form keeper over a keeper who had a very good season to start at the world cup?

You may want to reformulate your question. There was no knowing regarding Neuer's form, except that Loew saw both of them in training and that German players were saying in interviews that Neuer was like he was never injured.
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Re: General German national team thread

Postby ramsej84 » Tue Sep 17, 2019 9:13 am

For me Neuer is the best keeper from the two....
But for that expedition he shouldn't have been called in the first place...
That is what real football managers do.
You don't pick a player who missed the whole season
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Re: General German national team thread

Postby MUTU » Tue Sep 17, 2019 9:14 am

ramsej84 wrote:For me Neuer is the best keeper from the two....
But for that expedition he shouldn't have been called in the first place...
That is what real football managers do.
You don't pick a player who missed the whole season

He is the greatest goalkeeper of all time. You can't leave him out if he's fit. Can you imagine Portugal leaving out Ronaldo or Argentina leaving out Messi?
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Re: General German national team thread

Postby ramsej84 » Tue Sep 17, 2019 9:18 am

MUTU wrote:
ramsej84 wrote:For me Neuer is the best keeper from the two....
But for that expedition he shouldn't have been called in the first place...
That is what real football managers do.
You don't pick a player who missed the whole season

He is the greatest goalkeeper of all time. You can't leave him out if he's fit. Can you imagine Portugal leaving out Ronaldo or Argentina leaving out Messi?
Yes, if they missed all games from the season that had just ended.
Plus the role of gk is different in many ways... it is more difficult to get back to your self after a season out.
You are alone, just you the post and the net... an outfield player has the support of the rest of the team, psychologically it is easier to get back even after zero match practice.
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Re: General German national team thread

Postby MUTU » Tue Sep 17, 2019 9:25 am

Agree to disagree. An outfield player who hasn't played in a very long while is unable to play 90 minutes at first because he would tire himself out quickly with all that running. A goalkeeper needs to exercise himself less (albeit this being less true specifically in the case of Neuer) so there's a reason why goalkeepers are able to play 90 minutes on their comeback.

At the end of the day, Neuer played, Germany were eliminated and no one can point fingers at Neuer for that.

Also, I don't understand why you are going back to over a year ago. The discussion is specifically on the current state of affairs.
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Re: General German national team thread

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Tue Sep 17, 2019 9:36 am

Wouldn’t have left him out for sure but potentially he might not have been my starter. Löw had the privilege of knowing Neuer’s form on return from injury better than us.
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Re: General German national team thread

Postby r10 » Tue Sep 17, 2019 1:04 pm

MUTU wrote:
ramsej84 wrote:Can you imagine Portugal leaving out Ronaldo or Argentina leaving out Messi?
Happened quite often.
BTW who's better: Alisson or Ederson?
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