RedQueen wrote:I looked up the possession statistics of the Confed Cup and World Cup games, as well as the three most recent friendlies.
In the Confed Cup:
Germany 1-0 Chile 39 percent
Germany 4-1 Mexico 42 percent
Germany 1-1 Chile 54 percent
Germany 3-2 Australia 59 percent
Germany 3-1 Cameroon 60 percent
In World Cup 2018:
Germany 0-2 South Korea 74 percent
Germany 2-1 Sweden 53 percent
Germany 0-1 Mexico 66 percent
The test games before the World Cup:
Germany 1-2 Austria 64 percent
Germany 0--1 Brazil 63 percent
Germany 2-1 Saudi Arabia 52 percent
Maybe it's just me, but I feel there's a pattern here.
Exactly... Guardiola managed to kill bayern and the German Nt simultaneously... a job well done for la liga and Spain.RedQueen wrote:Tell that to the German football community. There's currently a crusade against the pressing/gegenpressing/counterattacking game, with pundits and football officials arguing that the reason for the weakness of the Bundesliga is that we have too few possession oriented teams. It's hardly just Löw who has "lost his mind" here. IMO that's Guardiola's heritage.
Hasenhüttl is another one of the casualties. He tried the same thing as Löw (against the resistance of his DOF) and failed.
RedQueen wrote:Tell that to the German football community. There's currently a crusade against the pressing/gegenpressing/counterattacking game, with pundits and football officials arguing that the reason for the weakness of the Bundesliga in European competitions is that we have too few possession oriented teams. It's hardly just Löw who has "lost his mind" here. IMO that's Guardiola's heritage.
Hasenhüttl is another one of the casualties. He tried the same thing as Löw (against the resistance of his DOF) and failed.
So you still worshipping the Catalan (read charlatan) coachDumbledore7 wrote:RedQueen wrote:Tell that to the German football community. There's currently a crusade against the pressing/gegenpressing/counterattacking game, with pundits and football officials arguing that the reason for the weakness of the Bundesliga in European competitions is that we have too few possession oriented teams. It's hardly just Löw who has "lost his mind" here. IMO that's Guardiola's heritage.
Hasenhüttl is another one of the casualties. He tried the same thing as Löw (against the resistance of his DOF) and failed.
Beautifully put. Most influential coach ever.
tflags wrote:RB624 wrote:America USA wrote:This is absolutely the worst Germany has ever done at a World Cup in eternity! Most people alive today weren’t even born in 1938. This is a monumental disaster and there is no sugarcoating that bitter reality!
And actually this was worse than 1938 anyway. In 1938 they at least reached the final 16, as the tournament involved 15 teams. And Switzerland didn't knock them out in one match. The first match was a draw, and then Switzerland won the replay.
From what I read it was a straight knockout tournament with very few participating teams. Not really a group stage in that Cup. I'm not sure it is a fair comparison.
RedQueen wrote:Tell that to the German football community. There's currently a crusade against the pressing/gegenpressing/counterattacking game, with pundits and football officials arguing that the reason for the weakness of the Bundesliga in European competitions is that we have too few possession oriented teams. It's hardly just Löw who has "lost his mind" here. IMO that's Guardiola's heritage.
Hasenhüttl is another one of the casualties. He tried the same thing as Löw (against the resistance of his DOF) and failed.
RedQueen wrote:Outis wrote:...firing him now would only serve sole purpose of punishing him.
Yes, guess that's what I was trying to say by stating he doesn't deserve to be fired. He has achieved far too much to deserve to be fired. Especially as imo he definitely isn't the only one at fault.
Besides, or rather: what's more important, as long as there isn't anyone more suitable available, we'd punish ourselves and the team more than we punish him.
@America USA: I didn't say Klinsmann inherited a worse team, I said Klinsmann took over when German football was in a worse state. Big difference. Klinsmann did a lot more than just coach the team, and I have to admit it sometimes angers me when he's being given so much shit in this forum. Yes, he did a bad job when it comes to coaching at Bayern, but I firmly believe we would have never made it in 2014 without the changes he forced through 10 years earlier. And even at Bayern off the pitch he achieved more than many are willing to give him credit for. (BTW the USMNT did what you suggested we do with Löw and fired him; what good has it done them, replacing him with Arena?)
@ramsej: Miro Klose doesn't even has his Fussballlehrer-license. He can't take over the national team.
ramsej84 wrote:IMO...
Germany only lacks strikers....
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This explains a lot of the Bayern/Germany deblace. Kovac is not a possession obsessed coach, isn't he? Weird choiceRedQueen wrote:Tell that to the German football community. There's currently a crusade against the pressing/gegenpressing/counterattacking game, with pundits and football officials arguing that the reason for the weakness of the Bundesliga in European competitions is that we have too few possession oriented teams. It's hardly just Löw who has "lost his mind" here. IMO that's Guardiola's heritage.
Hasenhüttl is another one of the casualties. He tried the same thing as Löw (against the resistance of his DOF) and failed.
RedQueen wrote:Tell that to the German football community. There's currently a crusade against the pressing/gegenpressing/counterattacking game, with pundits and football officials arguing that the reason for the weakness of the Bundesliga in European competitions is that we have too few possession oriented teams. It's hardly just Löw who has "lost his mind" here. IMO that's Guardiola's heritage.
Hasenhüttl is another one of the casualties. He tried the same thing as Löw (against the resistance of his DOF) and failed.
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