America USA wrote:Look Müller might have played at RW for Germany’s for a long time but times change and those who fail to adapt will perish. Teams have worked him out now, since Klose’s retirement he’s not interchanging with the other forwards as often to make him effective. He doesn’t have the pace, technique or strength to take defenders on 1v1. He has to play behind the striker or with one to play his role of Raumdeuter.
Manchu wrote:America USA wrote:Look Müller might have played at RW for Germany’s for a long time but times change and those who fail to adapt will perish. Teams have worked him out now, since Klose’s retirement he’s not interchanging with the other forwards as often to make him effective. He doesn’t have the pace, technique or strength to take defenders on 1v1. He has to play behind the striker or with one to play his role of Raumdeuter.
I think you've hit the problem on its head, but you haven't quite completely defined it completely. The problem with Muller and the entire German offense is bound up in the center-forward question.
The team that roared to life in 2010 relied on Klose as a versatile and complete center forward who let the other players in the attack function. That generally worked well with either him or Gomez fulfilling the role until 2012.
Unfortunately, Klose was getting old and Mario Gomez had his (injury) problems, so Low decided the team had to switch to playing with Gotze as a false 9. That worked OK against weaker opponents but crashed and burned at the World Cup and the team generally failed to consistently create good chances until Low switched to using Klose again, at which point the team proceeded to crush its opponents.
After the World Cup, Klose retired and Gomez full of the face of the Earth, so Low switched back to a false 9 approach. That completely failed at the Euros, with Germany creating only two big chances from open play in the first two games against Poland and Ukraine, so he abandoned it for the third game against Northern Ireland and the offense(and Muller) massively improved(5 big chances in one games). It didn't work out in the end because Gomez got injured against Italy and there were no more center forwards.
Finally, after the Euros Low basically switched back to a false 9 again with Werner playing the role(he's not officially that, but has the same deficiencies). Predictably, that worked OK against small teams but completely failed against a big opponent and the entire offense, including Muller, was toothless and created 0 big chances, especially since the left flank was nonexistent.
The remedy is clear: drop Werner, start Gomez. We can't counter attack against a team that parks the bus on us.
If the players think as you do , I am happy more than happy that Germany... what is this arrogance? Mexico is a respected tm around the world, a team which always shows great football and does well in the world cup... Four yrs ago it had to be a cruel penalty to eliminate them.#12 wrote:America USA wrote:Mexico still had 2-3 very good counter attacks in the second half to kill the game. Also, we could’ve played till midnight but the Germans never really looked like scoring in this game.
What’s the reaction like in the German media? Is Löw being (rightfully) criticized ?
It’s a little too easy to put this all on Löw... We're talking Mexico here, I mean we oughta beat them with our B team playing with 10 men and NO tactics... It’s like Bundesliga-2nd Bundesliga - AT LEAST! There was NO ambition, no focus, and no greed anywhere in that bloodless pile of egomaniacs... Complacency... Just like in the Bayern team...
America USA wrote:Mexico still had 2-3 very good counter attacks in the second half to kill the game. Also, we could’ve played till midnight but the Germans never really looked like scoring in this game.
What’s the reaction like in the German media? Is Löw being (rightfully) criticized ?
Sweden will be a more difficult opponent than they are ... taking into consideration the pressure under which Germany will be playing...FCBayernMunchen wrote:America USA wrote:Mexico still had 2-3 very good counter attacks in the second half to kill the game. Also, we could’ve played till midnight but the Germans never really looked like scoring in this game.
What’s the reaction like in the German media? Is Löw being (rightfully) criticized ?
I'm curious too. The local media are the only ones who can put enough pressure to force changes. They have to criticise every player who deserves it without holding anything back.
ramsej84 wrote:And also the Germans are hated big time (football wise)
MUTU wrote:So Germany can't dribble and there's nobody in midfield who can destroy.
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