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General German national team thread

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Should Joachim Löw remain the German coach?

Yes, he is a great coach.
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Yes, because at the moment there's not many options.
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No, he should resign as Germany needs a new direction.
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No, he should be fired as he's doing a terrible job.
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Total votes : 33

Re: General German national team thread

Postby GoatHCW » Tue May 15, 2018 4:34 pm

Weird he decided not to list the best German LB for the squad.... #-o
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Re: General German national team thread

Postby MUTU » Tue May 15, 2018 4:41 pm

YlonenXabi wrote:I really like Loew. Best coach for this NT by far

But HOW ON EARTH did he call up Gomez and Petersen instead of Sandro Wagner???????????? :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: I would say Wagner was a much safer bet that Petersen as he has already experience with the NT. What is Petersen doing in this list is beyond me. Luckily he is not gonna make it to the WC.

To be honest, all of the German strikers suck. No German striker is scoring match after match. Even Werner has scored what, 5 goals in 2018?

But yes, Wagner definitely has the highest goals-per-min. played amongst all German strikers, and has scored against Liverpool in the CL qualifiers, in the Europa League, in the Champions League KO, in the Bundesliga and in the DFB Pokal.
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Re: General German national team thread

Postby MUTU » Tue May 15, 2018 4:45 pm

MUTU wrote:What more could Philipp Max have done to earn a place in the squad?

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Re: General German national team thread

Postby MUTU » Tue May 15, 2018 4:48 pm

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Re: General German national team thread

Postby Bayernbazi » Tue May 15, 2018 4:51 pm

MUTU wrote:In essence, the last 22-man Turkey international squad had 5 Germany-born players.


I'm sure that there will not be just words from the Turkish FA and they would lose their place in the Turkish squad if they were to do the same thing with Merkel.

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Re: General German national team thread

Postby ramsej84 » Tue May 15, 2018 5:49 pm

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MUTU wrote:In essence, the last 22-man Turkey international squad had 5 Germany-born players.


I'm sure that there will not be just words from the Turkish FA and they would lose their place in the Turkish squad if they were to do the same thing with Merkel.

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Re: General German national team thread

Postby YlonenXabi » Tue May 15, 2018 7:15 pm

My theory about this shocking Wagner not being called up thing


Loew just wants to call up 2 strikers for the WC. One is Werner and the other could have been either Gomez or Wagner. He chose Gomez as he has got much more experience in big stages

Then he called Nils Petersen instead of Wagner as a recognition for his good season in BL and because he knows Petersen is not expecting to make it to the WC, so it would be easier for him to tell him the bad news.

He could've done the same with Ulreich and Trapp though
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Re: General German national team thread

Postby YlonenXabi » Tue May 15, 2018 7:17 pm

And I have to say I think it's a huge mistake

Cause Sandro Wagner is in much better form than Gomez and he is better at headers and even build up. Wagner can make more impact than Gomez coming off the bench too.

Gomez is only better than Wagner in terms of experience
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Re: General German national team thread

Postby #12 » Tue May 15, 2018 7:17 pm

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criticises....... this is new!


Nope, you just read it for the first time... ;)
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Re: General German national team thread

Postby Jorge » Tue May 15, 2018 7:38 pm

The big question is who are going to be the 4 being cut for the 23 men roster:

1) Petersen (he is obviously the "filler" in the squad)
2) Neuer (Not match ready)
3) Rudy (Not a starter for his team/ redundant in his role)
4) Tah or Ginter (one CB too many, but if Boateng does not recover they both could go)
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Re: General German national team thread

Postby Bavarian_Kielbasa » Tue May 15, 2018 7:50 pm

MUTU wrote:
icewizard wrote:
Bavarian_Kielbasa wrote:As for the anthem - sing it or shut up IMO. There is plenty of time to pray before the kick off. The anthem is Germany time not Ozil time.


I've seen him pray on screen, but it is just before kickoff...

Bavarian_Kielbasa wrote::: Arsenal midfielder Mesut Ozil has revealed in his autobiography that he prays in Turkish on the pitch during the German national anthem before international matches.

“Just before kick-off, I pray. It’s become a tradition of mine. It’s always the same text. I pray in Turkish,” he writes in his autobiography ‘Die Magie des Spiels’ (The Magic of the Game), released on March 16 in German.


The quote says "just before kick-off" not "during the german national anthem". I guess this is when players are in place on the pitch, ball in the center, referee with the whistle in mouth... And that's when i usually see Özil pray, hands in the air.

I don't know if you get what i mean.

This is a massive difference to praying DURING the national anthem!

Supposedly - during


“I learnt these prayers as a child from my parents,” he added.

“I say them after getting up, after eating and during the national anthem
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Re: General German national team thread

Postby ramsej84 » Tue May 15, 2018 8:17 pm

Jorge wrote:The big question is who are going to be the 4 being cut for the 23 men roster:

1) Petersen (he is obviously the "filler" in the squad)
2) Neuer (Not match ready)
3) Rudy (Not a starter for his team/ redundant in his role)
4) Tah or Ginter (one CB too many, but if Boateng does not recover they both could go)
I never rated Ginter....
And what about Mustafi is he there?-no right?

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Re: General German national team thread

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Tue May 15, 2018 8:59 pm

It will be:
Petersen
Rudy
Trapp/Neuer
Ginter
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Re: General German national team thread

Postby Jorge » Tue May 15, 2018 9:22 pm

ramsej84 wrote:
Jorge wrote:The big question is who are going to be the 4 being cut for the 23 men roster:

1) Petersen (he is obviously the "filler" in the squad)
2) Neuer (Not match ready)
3) Rudy (Not a starter for his team/ redundant in his role)
4) Tah or Ginter (one CB too many, but if Boateng does not recover they both could go)
I never rated Ginter....
And what about Mustafi is he there?-no right?


Mustafi was not named. IMO he is too inconsistent. If Boa is not fit Hummels- Sule with Hector and Kimmich on the flanks should be good enough.

I would like to see in certain games if Boa is fit Sule as a defensive mid in front of Boa-Hummels and covering Kroos back. Jupp did it once in lieu of Martinez and it worked great. Germany lacks a solid defensive mid and introducing one not only allows more freedom to Kroos, similar to what Cassemiro provides, but also releases our fullbacks to go forward.
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Re: General German national team thread

Postby America USA » Wed May 16, 2018 1:00 am

Seriously very disappointed with Löw’s favoritism. :x

Provisional Squad can be of up to 30 names. Not calling up Wagner at all is a scandalous thing to do. Wagner has been better than Gomez recently and Gomez sucked in that Brazil game held in March. Wagner is pretty good at headers as well as hold up and link up play. He was excellent in that WC qualifying away game against North Ireland against big physical center backs.

Also Philipp Max and Ulreich too deserved a spot in the provisional squad. Ulreich’s omission is kinda understandable because of the monumental mistake he made against Real Madrid.

Trapp’s Selection is also as bad as Wagner’s omission. Karius has had a better season than Trapp.

Finally a word on Gotze. He has had a few good weeks recently so I expected his name in the provisional squad but this will come as a big shock to him. Hopefully he takes this omission in his stride and bounces back in 2020.

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Thomas has to start because he will be the Captain. Right now I give Neuer only a 10% chance of making it to the final tournament.
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