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[2021-06-29] England vs Germany

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What is your prediction for this match?

Poll ended at Tue Jun 29, 2021 5:00 pm

England will win inside 90 minutes
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No votes
England will win after extra time
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England will win on penalties
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Germany will win on penalties
2
50%
Germany will win after extra time
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No votes
Germany will win inside 90 minutes
2
50%
 
Total votes : 4

Re: [2021-06-29] England vs Germany

Postby PunkCapitalist » Wed Jun 30, 2021 3:27 am

Just the better X11 selection is guaranteed to make Germany improve quite a bit. There aren't any fearsome NTs at the moment. France is the best one, but look at that... Disqualified against Switzerland....

Spain and Italy are nothing to write home about. Netherlands is weak. Brazil meh. Argentina meh. It wouldn't take a superb Germany to win the WC, they just have to play to their potential (as long as they find a striker, and I'm sure Flick will figure it out).
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Re: [2021-06-29] England vs Germany

Postby YlonenXabi » Wed Jun 30, 2021 5:12 am

When I read that Southgate would use a back 3 I knew Germany were in trouble

A back 3 may struggle against formations with a lone striker like 4-2-3-1 because you have 3 center backs vs one attacking player as main referece.

But the back 3 system with 3 solid CB's was more than enough to nullify Müller, Werner, Havertz or any other attacking player. With no real #9 in the squad Germany were doomed, their attack was sterile and could only hope for an error, a set piece or a lucky goal.

Added to that Kimmich and Gosens were playing mostly in defense as Germany were trying to stay compact and play it safe.


You can always change your tactics and adapt to the game, but Löw had no alternatives on the bench. It wouldn't have been easy to switch to a 4-2-3-1 or 4-4-2 without a proper #9.

I had a very bad feeling during the entire match. I really couldn't see the team scoring a goal. I know that Germany don't have any decent #9 at all, but in a squad of 26 players you need to nominate at least 1. It doesn't matter if it is Nils Petersen, Nmecha, or Fiete Arp. You need to have players with different skills in the team.

And that Müller miss reminded me of the one he had vs Inter in CL 2010 final :cry:
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Re: [2021-06-29] England vs Germany

Postby ramsej84 » Wed Jun 30, 2021 6:29 am

Can't see tweet? Click here!

Musiala should have refused to come in
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Re: [2021-06-29] England vs Germany

Postby MUTU » Wed Jun 30, 2021 6:35 am

ramsej84 wrote:Musiala should have refused to come in

Had he done that, you'd have been the first to accuse him of being an entitled prick, or that he still feels English and didn't want to play against England.
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Re: [2021-06-29] England vs Germany

Postby ramsej84 » Wed Jun 30, 2021 6:53 am

MUTU wrote:
ramsej84 wrote:Musiala should have refused to come in

Had he done that, you'd have been the first to accuse him of being an entitled prick, or that he still feels English and didn't want to play against England.
No ... You are wrong...

At 0-2 in the 91st min ... Wtf?
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Re: [2021-06-29] England vs Germany

Postby ramsej84 » Wed Jun 30, 2021 6:59 am

When you think that their holding MDF play for Leeds and West Ham respectively
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Re: [2021-06-29] England vs Germany

Postby Ottomeister87 » Wed Jun 30, 2021 9:20 am

ramsej84 wrote: Can't see tweet? Click here!

Musiala should have refused to come in


This is whats wrong with Low in just one statement. ''They have proven their class in the last 2/3 years''

Its not about what was back then, its about TODAY. Their form NOW. Who gives a fuck that Bayern won 6 titles in 19/20 at this EC? Gnabry was crap all season, Sane even worse. Both in top form could have Germany so much pace over the flanks. But they didnt even utilize that at all this EC.
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Re: [2021-06-29] England vs Germany

Postby Fénix » Wed Jun 30, 2021 10:22 am

Hans-Dieter Flick - der Beste der Besten!
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Re: [2021-06-29] England vs Germany

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Wed Jun 30, 2021 12:21 pm

ramsej84 wrote: Can't see tweet? Click here!

Musiala should have refused to come in
LOL after one game. That explains why Löw had dropped Müller etc. He doesn’t watch Bayern I guess.
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Re: [2021-06-29] England vs Germany

Postby huknife » Wed Jun 30, 2021 4:34 pm

I read the whole thread from when the match started.

Seems nobody else thought the game was taken intentionally slow, perhaps to not wear out everyone if we have to play 120 mins. And that thinking backfired when England scored with 12 minutes left to play.
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Re: [2021-06-29] England vs Germany

Postby Ottomeister87 » Wed Jun 30, 2021 4:50 pm

In which match besides parts of the Portugal game, did Germany play fast forward? Lol..
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Re: [2021-06-29] England vs Germany

Postby ramsej84 » Wed Jun 30, 2021 8:11 pm

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Re: [2021-06-29] England vs Germany

Postby #12 » Wed Jun 30, 2021 8:37 pm

Yeah a lot of people are always rooting for underdog small nations to finally win something, England is no different…
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Re: [2021-06-29] England vs Germany

Postby T4L10N » Wed Jun 30, 2021 9:42 pm



Thats outright dishonorable, talking about kids like that. Those people have no honor at all and I really do hope they (England I mean) dont win any title in this century.
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