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Re: General German football thread

Postby Fénix » Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:26 am

Borusse wrote:Ah yes, Richard from Friends.

Haha, Richard from Friends... awesome! :lol: This deserves one big thanks for making my night awesome and me laughing! :cheers:

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Re: General German football thread

Postby #12 » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:19 am

Fénix wrote:
Borusse wrote:Ah yes, Richard from Friends.

Haha, Richard from Friends... awesome! :lol: This deserves one big thanks for making my night awesome and me laughing! :cheers:

The famous mustache from Hawaii, Thomas Sullivan Magnum. :mrgreen:


Could that guy BE any happier?
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Re: General German football thread

Postby America USA » Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:19 pm

Lukas wrote:German football is a disgrace. For such a large powerful country where football is the number 1 sport by some distance, national and club football is embarrassing.

I think obsession with possession is the core reason for German football’s demise. While trying to emulate the Spanish game of technical soundness to retain the ball, the German academies forget their own unique play style and lost their own identities. The fact that Germany are struggling to produce top quality defensive midfielders is testament to this identity crisis. The lesson that needs to be learned here and in all other aspects of life is that what works for others might not necessarily be the best fit for you.

It’ll take a radical and tectonic shift in play style to stop this decay.
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Re: General German football thread

Postby FCB12Forever » Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:57 am

America USA wrote:
Lukas wrote:German football is a disgrace. For such a large powerful country where football is the number 1 sport by some distance, national and club football is embarrassing.

I think obsession with possession is the core reason for German football’s demise. While trying to emulate the Spanish game of technical soundness to retain the ball, the German academies forget their own unique play style and lost their own identities. The fact that Germany are struggling to produce top quality defensive midfielders is testament to this identity crisis. The lesson that needs to be learned here and in all other aspects of life is that what works for others might not necessarily be the best fit for you.

It’ll take a radical and tectonic shift in play style to stop this decay.


I think the lack of physicality is also one of the reasons why they are here. Inappropriate youth training program has produced players that is smart enough to know what's going on pitch but can't run, duel and jump. If you look at the FIFA 19 data in futhead for the national teams of France, Germany and Spain, you will see most German players had physical rating of 60's. It is similiar to the weaker ones of Spanish players, e.g. Iagos Aspas at 59, and is not even comparable to French (most at 90's, and Mbappe at a staggering 97 iirc). Spain was finished by the Russians days later, Dzyuba bullied them pretty badly.

The fact that Germany are struggling to produce top quality defensive midfielders is testament to this identity crisis.


I really like this one. Especially "Identity crisis".
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Re: General German football thread

Postby America USA » Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:04 am

Yes the lack of physicality too seems to be directly proportional to this obsession with possession. Academies are under the illusion that ball retention dilutes the need for engaging in physical duels.

Yes Spain too were exposed for their outdated tactics first by Russia and then by England and Croatia. Germans believed that if they followed the technical blueprint of Spain that ensured them success in three successive tournaments would also have a similar effect on Germany’s footballing future. Sadly all this copycat behavior has resulted in German football losing its own identity and trying to be someone they’re not.

Also, I believe that the plagiarist Löw was the one behind influencing the DFB and German academies to follow the possession based approach.

Only way this rot can be reversed is if the tactics of most German teams and the NT change and more emphasis is placed on verticality, quick forward passes to release pacy players, physical toughness and defending set pieces.

Also, it is shameful that for one of the tallest teams, Bayern and Deutschland are so poor at scoring from set pieces.
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Re: General German football thread

Postby longeleven » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:48 am

America USA wrote:Yes the lack of physicality too seems to be directly proportional to this obsession with possession. Academies are under the illusion that ball retention dilutes the need for engaging in physical duels.

Yes Spain too were exposed for their outdated tactics first by Russia and then by England and Croatia. Germans believed that if they followed the technical blueprint of Spain that ensured them success in three successive tournaments would also have a similar effect on Germany’s footballing future. Sadly all this copycat behavior has resulted in German football losing its own identity and trying to be someone they’re not.

Also, I believe that the plagiarist Löw was the one behind influencing the DFB and German academies to follow the possession based approach.

Only way this rot can be reversed is if the tactics of most German teams and the NT change and more emphasis is placed on verticality, quick forward passes to release pacy players, physical toughness and defending set pieces.

Also, it is shameful that for one of the tallest teams, Bayern and Deutschland are so poor at scoring from set pieces.


Last night, both Hummels (a well-know German CB) and Javi Martinez (strong Spain DMF) were beaten by Van Dijk (a fast, strong CB play in EPL) in an aerial duel which lead to a goal . That said for all your points =D>
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