MUTU wrote:ramsej84 wrote:I was against him cause of his mocking of our titan
Mocking? I took it as a sign of respect, like when kids score and do a Cristiano Ronaldo goal celebration.
Tobias Rau?Fénix wrote:Anyway, one of the worst if not the worst overall. He is just 39. Görlitz and him, Jesus Christ...
Fénix wrote:Anyway, one of the worst if not the worst overall. He is just 39. Görlitz and him, Jesus Christ...
MUTU wrote:How is he one of the worst? He was so good with us that he was playing for the German NT. We've had players who were never anywhere close to playing for Germany. He had actually overtaken Lahm at one point, and then got injured and never was the same again.
Same thing with Görlitz.
Well, I mean, a HUGE spine operation is not exactly what you want for a goalie... There ARE unexpected things involved at times, who know where he'd be if it wasn’t for that... Or think about Robben or even Coman... Badstuber...FCBayernMunchen wrote:Oh yes, definitely, and back then Neuer’s involvement in play led to frequent blunders. I remember Stankovic but I’m positive he wasn’t the only one.#12 wrote:Me too and in all fairness until WC 2010 he totally had the upper hand... Of course then he got seriously injured, but Adler was merely slightly better (then) at shot stopping, never that involved in play...FCBayernMunchen wrote:I wanted Adler.
But can you imagine? Even Kraft turned out better
Well it matters which one... Elber and Sergio only got garbage minutes for Brazil, while there was a time Ribbeck and Völler were not far from calling ME up...MUTU wrote:Fénix wrote:Anyway, one of the worst if not the worst overall. He is just 39. Görlitz and him, Jesus Christ...
How is Tobias Rau one of the worst? He was so good with us that he was playing for the German NT. He had actually overtaken Lahm at one point, and then got injured and never was the same again.
Same thing with Görlitz.
We've had players who were never anywhere close to playing for their national team because they sucked so badly. Rau and Görlitz don't belong in this list.
#12 wrote:Well it matters which one... Elber and Sergio only got garbage minutes for Brazil, while there was a time Ribbeck and Völler were not far from calling ME up...
Yeah but sometimes it‘s only a gesture or a safety net... I mean fucking Sarr is getting call ups now... And we all know he doesn’t have the quality... He’s 28ffs...MUTU wrote:#12 wrote:Well it matters which one... Elber and Sergio only got garbage minutes for Brazil, while there was a time Ribbeck and Völler were not far from calling ME up...
Yes true, but as far as I know Elber had a fight with the coach of Brazil, that's why he wasn't called up as much as he should have. In any case, they WERE called up.
FCBayernMunchen wrote:What ever became of Lell and Ottl, the two we all loved to hate so much?
Lell was arrested on 3 January 2014 after his wife filed a report with the police.[26][27]
Lell was charged with possession of cocaine that was in his luxury estate.[28]
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