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Thomas Tuchel

I don't know why people want Klopp..then people will complain that we don't have much possession..don't dominate and loose the ball very often..also there will be more injuries due to his playing style..
If you are not satisfied with guardiola then you won't like klopp either..also I wonder how he will choose his players if he gets more money than mainz or bvb..

Lets go for a safer and better,in my opinion,option..don ancelotti!
BTW wouldn't mind pep staying either..I don't think many teams can keep a clean sheet against a CL team with NO CBs..

BTW low has as much chance of coming to bayern when pep leaves as SAF or Jupp..

I wanted Klopp... but seeing those tweets reminded me of what I once heard Klopp say sometime in 2013... to an Italian tv station.
He said that he does not like to coach Big clubs... because he likes to beat them...
Therefore his destinations can be Tottenham / Lpool in England
RB Leipzig / B.Leverkusen in Germany ((if R.Schmidt comes to bayern)

I would go for Carlo if pep decides to leave.

I like Carlo too but I think it will be another short term coach...
So I prefer someone who can create an era here. Preferably German.

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If he would go there he'd lose all of my respect - and I think that of many Dortmund Fans too - unless they're totally hypocritical...

I really want Pep to stay, but if he leaves, I'd like to see either Favre or Schmidt take the helm...

I have my problem with Klopp. It's a bigger question than a name.

LvG and Pep are micro-managers. They set up their teams in detailed tactical setups. Jupp was a little more flexible, letting the team play to its strengths but still building the tactics well.

Klopp and Ancelotti are different. They are not micro-management coaches. They won't say a player should run 5 metres to the right while Bernat tucks in and Thiago drifts to the right and passes the ball to Müller who then has to turn and cross it to Lewy to head it.

Will the team go from micro-managing to the Ancelotti way of "go there and do your best", or will the board look for another micro-manager

#12 wrote:If he would go there he'd lose all of my respect - and I think that of many Dortmund Fans too - unless they're totally hypocritical...

If he really goes there I doubt he'd care... because if he goes there, it all was a big fat disgusting lie. I don't know how to feel about this. I'd never thought he'd consider even going to ManCity, let alone RB Leipzig. If I were the betting type I'd have put my money on Liverpool. But the statement about smaller club projects that need help sounds more like RB Leipzig than Liverpool.

Fernando_Bayern_BR wrote:I really want Pep to stay, but if he leaves, I'd like to see either Favre or Schmidt take the helm...

Favre or Schmidt... it doesn't get much more different than them.

albanian7 wrote:I have my problem with Klopp. It's a bigger question than a name.

LvG and Pep are micro-managers. They set up their teams in detailed tactical setups. Jupp was a little more flexible, letting the team play to its strengths but still building the tactics well.

Klopp and Ancelotti are different. They are not micro-management coaches. They won't say a player should run 5 metres to the right while Bernat tucks in and Thiago drifts to the right and passes the ball to Müller who then has to turn and cross it to Lewy to head it.

Will the team go from micro-managing to the Ancelotti way of "go there and do your best", or will the board look for another micro-manager

I totally agree. One of many reasons I can't and don't want to see Klopp at Bayern.

I say no to Klopp, because his approach to the game exhausts players over time... especially considering that Bayern is supposed to be involved in all competitions all the time... we can't continuously use his playing style for a long period of time...!
and he does not have any other plan, or he has not shown that yet....

This may well be a very outside and unpopular opinion, but Andre Villas-Boas will be available come the end of next year. He's one of my personal favourite managers and I would very much welcome him (he did come to our Qatar camp 2 years ago didn't he?).

Now hear me out. I think we've established that Klopp is an exceptional manager whose record speaks for itself but just does not fit with our philosophy (or our vision towards a philosophy), and AVB is quite the polar opposite, being relatively inexperienced but does have a style about him. His managerial approach is personal and he likes to win with style and attack, attack and attack; something very reminiscent of our current coach. He's the sort of coach you're looking for if you're not only looking to win, but to dominate. He has a very clear vision when establishing his tactics, nitpicks in player positioning and sticks to it but can go very wrong on a bad day (again, who does this remind me of?). His playing style is not too pass heavy, not to the point where we want to have as many players as possible surrounding the ball so that the ball doesn't get lost (unlike Pep). But he clearly aims to keep possession and ideally making the opponent helpless whenever the team have the ball. As a bonus, he attacks referees as well.

I don't think he's had the platform to truly establish himself as a world class manager, but now might be the right time in his career to do that (and he's still very young indeed). His two big successes, Porto and recently Zenit, are teams almost in the stature of Bayern in their respective leagues. He relatively failed in the Premier League due to the impatient nature of not only executive boards but also supporters. It can be argued that Chelsea and Tottenham are the more proper managerial challenges as opposed to Porto and Zenit, but Bayern aren't looking for someone to carry us to Champions League spots - we are already on top and we need someone to keep it that way. He has a vision, I think, which specifically requires exceptional and intelligent players (which is partly why he was inconsistent), but again we needn't worry about that because we already have a treasure chest worth of them. I think his biggest achievement so far is actually the record tally of points for Tottenham, as well as putting Gareth Bale on the world stage that season. Imagine what he can do with our players.

Now of course nothing's linking us with him so far, but it's looking more realistic than not because his contract expires when Pep's does. Yet still in the ideal world my preferences are firstly Pep to stay, Tuchel (only after what I saw from Dortmund, and he's not realistic anyways), Villas-Boas and then Jogi Loew.

I'd have to pay more attention to Villas-Boas. I appreciate that he did good things before he moved to the EPL, and that the EPL's short-termism may have unfairly tarnished his reputation. I'm kind of suspicious of a manager that doesn't have experience playing, but Mourinho managed it and maybe it gives a different, broader perspective.

I've forgot about him... I think he can do well here but what about the language barrier? I know he is in the same situation in Russia but still think that to be bayern coach one has to speak German.
TBh I ve forgot how he got sacked by Tott. I think they were a couple of points away from the 4th spot when he got the sack.

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Please guys, leave that guy for Real Madrid