Jorge wrote:BTW, you are right on the spot but a pre-2014 Kroos was already one of the best around, you can ask Jupp Heynckes, one of the best coaches around, just watch this compilation (although any 2015-2017 is even better):
JANCKER wrote:Ancelotti is taking advantage of Muller's slump to implement his 3 men midfield thing, Pep would've done the same but it would've been too much from him to displace 3 German star internationals during his tenure... thank God that Muller is a fan favorite.
Kroos left because he was underappreciated... he should've given him the midfield keys.
Thiagoalcantara wrote:Kroos is the CM version of Ozil.
Where did this Busquets-xavi hybrid come from.
PunkCapitalist wrote:Ancelotti HAS built the team around Thiago. When he isn't around, the midfield just doesn't work. He, and not Xabi, is the one that sets our pace and makes.the game.
Also, not sure if Jorge meant to imply this, but Pep didn't build around Kroos. He built around Lahm. Lahm was the regista for us in 2013-2014. And yet, the whole midfield stopped working when Thiago was injured. That's when we became stale.
PunkCapitalist wrote:Also, comparing Kroos to Pirlo or Xabi is blasphemy. Those two are far 100x the players Kroos is. Busquets Is not a regista, he is a modern DM. Subtly different roles.
PunkCapitalist wrote:Kroos can do, Thiago can do too.
Dumbledore7 wrote:Thiagoalcantara wrote:Kroos is the CM version of Ozil.
Where did this Busquets-xavi hybrid come from.
Again a myth said by people who typically watch very little football and play a lot of FIFA. Sounds like what the average Englishman would say.
Busqets' pass selection, Xavi's passing range. Covers a lot of ground and a brilliant off-the-ball presser too. He can't tackle for shit but he reads the game that he can tunnel opposing attackers to Casemiro or a defender who can make the tackle. Not nearly as lethargic as Özil.PunkCapitalist wrote:Ancelotti HAS built the team around Thiago. When he isn't around, the midfield just doesn't work. He, and not Xabi, is the one that sets our pace and makes.the game.
Also, not sure if Jorge meant to imply this, but Pep didn't build around Kroos. He built around Lahm. Lahm was the regista for us in 2013-2014. And yet, the whole midfield stopped working when Thiago was injured. That's when we became stale.
Just because Thiago's executing the final ball doesn't mean it's built around him. He is indeed the only one in our team capable of doing things. Registas merely dictates who gets to do things. Kroos dictates in Real Madrid now. Back then, Thiago was merely a passing option for Lahm, although he probably has the best outlet out of all of Lahm's passing options.PunkCapitalist wrote:Also, comparing Kroos to Pirlo or Xabi is blasphemy. Those two are far 100x the players Kroos is. Busquets Is not a regista, he is a modern DM. Subtly different roles.
You wouldn't be saying this if you watch him on a regular basis, trust me. He's already surpassed Pirlo. Also Busquets is clearly a regista to me, he dictates tempo, he decides who gets to do things and that's all it is. Defending-wise he's averagely just enough.PunkCapitalist wrote:Kroos can do, Thiago can do too.
Technique-wise yes, there are things that Alonso can do that Boateng can do too. What Lahm can do to make him the best RB of all time, every single RB who has played football can do too. The difference is when and how you decide to do it.
Drawing from a very recent memory, Alonso's performance against Arsenal in the 2nd half. As far as passing technique goes, Thiago could've done all that, but he's in the final third working on the final ball while Alonso recovered the ball in the middle and sprayed it back forward. Meanwhile, Kroos does what Alonso did on an annoyingly regular basis.
Thiagoalcantara wrote:Except your from a nation that has no football.
Thiagoalcantara wrote:Might gosh, you really didnt watch RM during his first season than if you think hes some hybrid player
Thiagoalcantara wrote:Except your from a nation that has no football.
Dumbledore7 wrote:Love it when I get that reply, means the other guy arguing is grasping at straws. Inferiority complex to the maximum.
Dumbledore7 wrote:Thiagoalcantara wrote:Might gosh, you really didnt watch RM during his first season than if you think hes some hybrid player
I did, which is why I keep saying to forget everything up to 2014. Since the turn of that year he has improved ridiculously, you'd know that if you watch some stuff but it seems like you're the one who ceased to watch football after that.
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