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Question of the Day: Should FCB sell Thomas Mueller

Postby tflags » Sun Oct 28, 2018 1:07 pm

Yes or no please.
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Re: Question of the Day: Should FCB sell Thomas Mueller

Postby OhioFan » Sun Oct 28, 2018 1:27 pm

No
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Re: Question of the Day: Should FCB sell Thomas Mueller

Postby ramsej84 » Sun Oct 28, 2018 1:44 pm

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Re: Question of the Day: Should FCB sell Thomas Mueller

Postby Coman » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:48 pm

Yes.
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Re: Question of the Day: Should FCB sell Thomas Mueller

Postby IsiahRashad » Sun Oct 28, 2018 4:31 pm

Yes.
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Re: Question of the Day: Should FCB sell Thomas Mueller

Postby MUTU » Sun Oct 28, 2018 4:47 pm

The question should not be a yes or no but at what price would you sell Mueller? 30m? 50m? 75m? 100m? 150m? 200m? 500m? 1 BILLION? :)

I would sell him for 150m.
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Re: Question of the Day: Should FCB sell Thomas Mueller

Postby Fénix » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:04 pm

Yes.
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Re: Question of the Day: Should FCB sell Thomas Mueller

Postby tuscanybayern » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:13 pm

No. As long as he wants to stay, he HAS to stay, I would not sell him unless some Mr. Al-Something signs a check for >80 million euros
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Re: Question of the Day: Should FCB sell Thomas Mueller

Postby #12 » Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:53 pm

MUTU wrote:The question should not be a yes or no but at what price would you sell Mueller? 30m? 50m? 75m? 100m? 150m? 200m? 500m? 1 BILLION? :)

I would sell him for 150m.


The asking price should be set according to how much it would cost to get a similarly good younger player... In his current form, he's not even worth 50...
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Re: Question of the Day: Should FCB sell Thomas Mueller

Postby tflags » Sun Oct 28, 2018 6:02 pm

Make it simple please. A yes or no is appreciated.
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Re: Question of the Day: Should FCB sell Thomas Mueller

Postby MUTU » Sun Oct 28, 2018 6:33 pm

tflags wrote:Make it simple please. A yes or no is appreciated.

It's too simple. Would I sell him for 2 euros? No. Would I sell him for 10 billion euros? Yes. So what should I answer?
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Re: Question of the Day: Should FCB sell Thomas Mueller

Postby tuscanybayern » Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:37 pm

I would sell everyone for the right price. Would you swap James+cash for Mbappé? Well, I would, but "cash" could mean $9,99 or $99,999,999.

Maybe you should rephrase your question:

"Would you force Thomas Muller to leave and put him on the market so that we can get rid of him for a reasonable transfer fee (but not one we could buy a decent replacement?"

I would answer NO to this question
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Re: Question of the Day: Should FCB sell Thomas Mueller

Postby MoFattal » Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:48 am

No
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Re: Question of the Day: Should FCB sell Thomas Mueller

Postby aterford » Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:07 am

Far too simple for just a yes or no answer, sorry.

First off: at what price? How much do we reasonably believe Müller would sell for. Is he going to fetch a €100m offer from United like he supposedly did a few years ago? I doubt that.

Second: is the amount he'd sell for greater than the value he contributes to the team? I have to take a sort of 'moneyball' approach here. What value do we place on Müller's in-game impact? Is he worth €20m, 30m, 40m, 50m, etc? This was the question with Lewandowski: how much money would it take to replace his production? I think we have to ask the same for Müller. Of course there's no clear way to quantify it, but let's say Müller brings €50m of 'value' to the pitch...but the best offer we get for a sale is €40m. In that circumstance, in order to replace that production - that'd be lost by selling - we'd effectively be taking a loss.

Third: do we think Müller is currently or WILL get in the way of younger and/or better players? Will he stick around too long and pout like Ribery when he doesn't play? I think that up till this point we can say that hasn't been the case. If it were, then there'd be a stronger argument for 'sell'

Ultimately, I wouldn't, because I think the benefits of doing so are quite minimal (and I'm not convinced they'd outweigh the loss). Even if we accept the chatter regarding Müller's decline (though the statistical support for such decline is largely nonexistent, but that's a story for another day), he's not a troublemaker or locker room cancer, he's well-liked by other players, and I really doubt he'd sell for more than he's "worth" - and I think it's all moot because I'm 100% confident the simple fact of the matter is that even IF Müller is sold it's not going to change much on the pitch or in regards to transfers. I'm absolutely certain there's not a single player out there whose signing is dependent on Müller being sold. So I'm sure it might make some feel better if we sold him, but it'd be about as beneficial as selling Rafinha or similar - even if he's slipped there's just no compelling reason to get rid of him. At worst he's a perfectly serviceable backup (for a couple positions)
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Re: Question of the Day: Should FCB sell Thomas Mueller

Postby tflags » Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:14 am

MUTU wrote:
tflags wrote:Make it simple please. A yes or no is appreciated.

It's too simple. Would I sell him for 2 euros? No. Would I sell him for 10 billion euros? Yes. So what should I answer?


It IS a simple question. Arguing beyond the obvious meaning is irrelevant. Of course for 200 million the team will probably sell its soul; that is simply not the question.

The question is, given a simple and fair offer, should FCB sell Thomas Mueller. None has asked what is his value or is he worth 80 million or 20. If the clubs considers that - based on fair market valuation parameters - that he's worth say, 40 million for example, and an offer of that magnitude comes along, should Bayern sell him?

It IS a simple question. . . :roll:
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