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by **JANCKER** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:00 pm

^ That was more gay than the rainbow... In fact, I like the rainbow and I don't mind it at all but for me it will never represent what they try to use it for. It represents something other and it was there long before LGBT's decided to steal it and change its meaning...

FCBayernMunchen · by **FCBayernMunchen** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:24 pm

MUTU wrote:I find it ironic from Catholics who preach
"A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another." [source]
and yet can't stop their hate campaign against people who are not heterosexuals. This brainwashing of hatred is leading to abuse all around the world.

I'm a Catholic myself but sometimes I wonder whether religion in general has brought about more pain or gain.

I think you know the answer to that but I'll point out one thing: it's not religious founders (like Jesus or the Buddha or whoever), it's all the religious institutions that followed.

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by **JANCKER** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:31 pm

Yeah, Jesus and Buddha would be OK with gay marriage. :oops:

MUTU · by **MUTU** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:38 pm

JANCKER wrote:Yeah, Jesus and Buddha would be OK with gay marriage.

You don't get the point do you? It has nothing to do with whether one believes that their relationship should exist and more to do with giving equal rights to actual relationships that exist between two humans created by God. It would not be so bad if the Church's stance was "we don't agree with gays getting into a relationship with each other but if they do let's not discriminate against them and give them equal rights"

#MUTU4Pope

by **JANCKER** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:44 pm

MUTU wrote:
JANCKER wrote:Yeah, Jesus and Buddha would be OK with gay marriage.

You don't get the point do you? It has nothing to do with whether one believes that their relationship should exist and more to do with giving equal rights to actual relationships that exist between two humans created by God. It would not be so bad if the Church's stance was "we don't agree with gays getting into a relationship with each other but if they do let's not discriminate against them and give them equal rights"

#MUTU4Pope

Rly? They have no place in Church and it's even ridiculous to discuss about it. They can go to Church only if they're willing to repent and convert.

MUTU · by **MUTU** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:49 pm

JANCKER wrote:
MUTU wrote:
JANCKER wrote:Yeah, Jesus and Buddha would be OK with gay marriage.

You don't get the point do you? It has nothing to do with whether one believes that their relationship should exist and more to do with giving equal rights to actual relationships that exist between two humans created by God. It would not be so bad if the Church's stance was "we don't agree with gays getting into a relationship with each other but if they do let's not discriminate against them and give them equal rights"

#MUTU4Pope

Rly? They have no place in Church and it's even ridiculous to discuss about it. They can go to Church only if they're willing to repent and convert.

Do you see how grossly different this is to Jesus in the Bible who actively seeked to reach out to the criminals? The Church does the exact opposite by pushing them away.

by **JANCKER** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:53 pm

MUTU wrote:
JANCKER wrote:Rly? They have no place in Church and it's even ridiculous to discuss about it. They can go to Church only if they're willing to repent and convert.

Do you see how grossly different this is to Jesus in the Bible who actively seeked to reach out to the criminals? The Church does the exact opposite by pushing them away.

Read it again... Jesus will not tell anyone to remain a sinner, read the Bible.

MUTU · by **MUTU** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:56 pm

JANCKER wrote:
MUTU wrote:
JANCKER wrote:Rly? They have no place in Church and it's even ridiculous to discuss about it. They can go to Church only if they're willing to repent and convert.

Do you see how grossly different this is to Jesus in the Bible who actively seeked to reach out to the criminals? The Church does the exact opposite by pushing them away.

Read it again...

The equivalent behavior in this forum would be for me to ban you until you agree with me on this issue and repent. Do you find that fair?

by **JANCKER** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:01 pm

MUTU wrote:The equivalent behavior in this forum would be for me to ban you until you agree with me on this issue and repent. Do you find that fair?

It's not the same, not even close. But I will never agree with you and if you want, you can ban me.

MUTU · by **MUTU** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:17 pm

JANCKER wrote:
MUTU wrote:The equivalent behavior in this forum would be for me to ban you until you agree with me on this issue and repent. Do you find that fair?

It's not the same, not even close. But I will never agree with you and if you want, you can ban me.

Why would I do that? I'm loving and accepting, like God. Pretty convinced that if Jesus was to come back to Earth he would wreak havoc in Vatican City from a physical and metaphorical sense.

Dumbledore7 · by **Dumbledore7** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:21 pm

MUTU already owns an internet cult of potentially unreasonable people devoted to more than 11 men with special abilities, and now likens himself to God... This could turn scary sooner rather than later man.

by **JANCKER** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:24 pm

MUTU wrote:
JANCKER wrote:
MUTU wrote:The equivalent behavior in this forum would be for me to ban you until you agree with me on this issue and repent. Do you find that fair?

It's not the same, not even close. But I will never agree with you and if you want, you can ban me.

Why would I do that? I'm loving and accepting, like God. Pretty convinced that if Jesus was to come back to Earth he would wreak havoc in Vatican City from a physical and metaphorical sense.

I think that you got the wrong impression about him... I, too, think that he'd wreak havoc but probably not for the reasons you think he would... he's supposed to come once more, nobody knows when, fun is guaranteed from what I heard.

Firefox1234 · by **Firefox1234** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:24 pm

I blame the Puritans...

nm462272 · by **nm462272** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:33 pm

If you're this upset about the colors on the Allianz Arena for a few hours, you need to question your belief systems...

MUTU · by **MUTU** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:36 pm

nm462272 wrote:If you're this upset about the colors on the Allianz Arena for a few hours, you need to question your belief systems...

The weird thing is that if you get demographics of those who oppose gay marriage you'll find that those who have been subjected to Christianity are far more likely to be against than those who aren't. This goes to show how people's ethics are greatly influenced by their religious leaders and I find that to be disturbingly dangerous.

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