Tipo jokes?FCBayernMunchen wrote:I haven't personally heard about cases of physical violence in Malta either, but hate crime goes beyond that.
My advice.... don't try to understand... the world is heading into an abyss...Jorge wrote:One question, I read in this forum the term LGBTIQ but in the US Media they refer to LGBT only, and I have also read LGBTQ+ recently on Bumper Stickers and someone explained to me that not having the plus (+) discriminate against minorities within the minorities. Besides the fact that sources indicate that there are from 58 to over 100 gender identities my only concern is: where will all this end? I am personally open minded and I tolerate pretty much anything when it comes to sexuality but when I hear about a triple gay marriageArticle [source]or a baby in Canada with 3 parents named in the birth certificate, the two lesbian mothers and the biological father,Article [source], again where will the line be drawn? If there is a triple marriage there will be a marriage of 4 coming soon, or 10 or 12 which is a common practice in some cultures but not in the Western Civilization (Judeo-Christian Culture for the most part) and openly discriminatory towards women; if kids can have 3 parents, they can have 10 or 12 as well, how are going to be the custody battles in the future for a kid with 20 parents? Can I claim a gender that I invent and seek protection based on 100 other recognized gender identities?
True that the institution of marriage is in crisis in the Western World with 50% of marriages ending in divorce but I personally struggle trying to understand in what direction we are heading to, since the flood gates seem to be open to much more than same sex marriage or adults doing behind close doors whatever they want, or people being recognized with equal rights by traditional institutions and governments.
ramsej84 wrote:My advice.... don't try to understand... the world is heading into an abyss...Jorge wrote:One question, I read in this forum the term LGBTIQ but in the US Media they refer to LGBT only, and I have also read LGBTQ+ recently on Bumper Stickers and someone explained to me that not having the plus (+) discriminate against minorities within the minorities. Besides the fact that sources indicate that there are from 58 to over 100 gender identities my only concern is: where will all this end? I am personally open minded and I tolerate pretty much anything when it comes to sexuality but when I hear about a triple gay marriageArticle [source]or a baby in Canada with 3 parents named in the birth certificate, the two lesbian mothers and the biological father,Article [source], again where will the line be drawn? If there is a triple marriage there will be a marriage of 4 coming soon, or 10 or 12 which is a common practice in some cultures but not in the Western Civilization (Judeo-Christian Culture for the most part) and openly discriminatory towards women; if kids can have 3 parents, they can have 10 or 12 as well, how are going to be the custody battles in the future for a kid with 20 parents? Can I claim a gender that I invent and seek protection based on 100 other recognized gender identities?
True that the institution of marriage is in crisis in the Western World with 50% of marriages ending in divorce but I personally struggle trying to understand in what direction we are heading to, since the flood gates seem to be open to much more than same sex marriage or adults doing behind close doors whatever they want, or people being recognized with equal rights by traditional institutions and governments.
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#12 wrote:Yeah, but the reason is Trump and the likes of him and not who is attracted by whom
I'm also a completely anti-discrimination guy, but yeah... I think the whole gender and identity crowd are just plain ridiculous...Jorge wrote:One question, I read in this forum the term LGBTIQ but in the US Media they refer to LGBT only, and I have also read LGBTQ+ recently on Bumper Stickers and someone explained to me that not having the plus (+) discriminate against minorities within the minorities. Besides the fact that sources indicate that there are from 58 to over 100 gender identities my only concern is: where will all this end? I am personally open minded and I tolerate pretty much anything when it comes to sexuality but when I hear about a triple gay marriageArticle [source]or a baby in Canada with 3 parents named in the birth certificate, the two lesbian mothers and the biological father,Article [source].
Again where will the line be drawn? If there is a triple marriage there will be a marriage of 4 coming soon, or 10 or 12 which is a common practice in some cultures but not in the Western Civilization (Judeo-Christian Culture for the most part) In the countries where polygamy is leagl discrimination towards women is also legal and that should be a problem for anyone advocating equal rights. If kids can have 3 parents, they can have 10 or 12 as well, how are going to be the custody battles in the future for a kid with 20 parents? Can I claim a gender that I invent and seek protection based on 100 other recognized gender identities?
True that the institution of marriage is in crisis in the Western World with 50% of marriages ending in divorce but I personally struggle trying to understand in what direction we are heading to, since the flood gates seem to be open to much more than same sex marriage or adults doing behind close doors whatever they want, or people being recognized with equal rights by traditional institutions and governments.
FCBayernMunchen wrote:Regarding your point legal discrimination towards women, the two don't go hand in hand. Not to advocate polygamy or anything, but that being legal doesn't mean discrimination is as well, irrespective of what's going on in other cultures.
That is why integration can never happen and it is counter productive...FCBayernMunchen wrote:Yes, but one isn't the result of the other. Women in those countries would be living in the same conditions even if polygamy were illegal there as well.
FCBayernMunchen wrote:Yes, but one isn't the result of the other. Women in those countries would be living in the same conditions even if polygamy were illegal there as well.
ramsej84 wrote:That is why integration can never happen and it is counter productive...FCBayernMunchen wrote:Yes, but one isn't the result of the other. Women in those countries would be living in the same conditions even if polygamy were illegal there as well.
Those advocating to import the whole of Africa and the Middle East to Europe are the same people who fight nail and tooth for the LGBTiq ppl...
If the trend goes on (& it will) some day the lgbtiq won't only lose their rights but also . . ...... .... cause those coming in are against their existence let alone giving them rights.
The Leftists and libs have to decide... lgbtiq or the alien culture...
I would chose the former but that is me
Jorge wrote:Strange logic. Polygamy does not subtract from discrimination of women, it adds to it.
ramsej84 wrote:That is why integration can never happen and it is counter productive...
Those advocating to import the whole of Africa and the Middle East to Europe are the same people who fight nail and tooth for the LGBTiq ppl...
If the trend goes on (& it will) some day the lgbtiq won't only lose their rights but also . . ...... .... cause those coming in are against their existence let alone giving them rights.
The Leftists and libs have to decide... lgbtiq or the alien culture...
I would chose the former but that is me
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