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Re: FC Bayern Youth

Postby nm462272 » Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:24 pm

I agree that Kovac should incorporate youth more than he has - that's definitely one area he's failed in. But:

1. he was crucified for too much rotation early in the season, and probably rightly so - the results weren't there, neither was consistency. so, he went totally in the opposite direction and doesn't rotate at all anymore. there should be a middle ground, obviously...
2. he's not in a position to take "risks" in the cup...because everyone is calling for his head even when he wins by small margins
3. Shabani isn't that good, at least compared to other Bayern talents who SHOULD be playing (Mai, Früchtl, Zirkzee, even Jeong Woo-Yeong)

I'm not defending Kovac, but that's the reality of his situation... he's been put in a place where he cannot afford to make any mistakes. Hence, he takes zero risks.
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Re: FC Bayern Youth

Postby Nulis vienas » Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:06 am

pfff how much of shabani have you seen? and how much of the stalling of his development do you give credit for to kovac? look even james is unhsppy under this dude how could teenagers have hope? yeah, davies was a relatively big money signing with a lot of marketing potential, heavily promoted by the club, so he got some minutes, and even him- not enough lol. btw I don't care what kovac feels employment wise, I care for the team not him
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Re: FC Bayern Youth

Postby nm462272 » Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:47 pm

Nulis vienas wrote:pfff how much of shabani have you seen? and how much of the stalling of his development do you give credit for to kovac? look even james is unhsppy under this dude how could teenagers have hope? yeah, davies was a relatively big money signing with a lot of marketing potential, heavily promoted by the club, so he got some minutes, and even him- not enough lol. btw I don't care what kovac feels employment wise, I care for the team not him


i've seen quite a bit of Shabani... i watch as much Bayern II as I'm able to. He's decent, but absolutely not up to Bayern standards. There are other youth players in our setup who have much more promise than him - Jeong, OBM, Zirkzee to name a few.
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Re: FC Bayern Youth

Postby Fénix » Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:21 pm

nm462272 wrote: There are other youth players in our setup who have much more promise than him - Jeong, OBM, Zirkzee to name a few.

Since you follow them much more than me,, could you tell what's your opinion on Will and Mai?
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Re: FC Bayern Youth

Postby nm462272 » Mon Apr 29, 2019 6:16 pm

Fénix wrote:
nm462272 wrote: There are other youth players in our setup who have much more promise than him - Jeong, OBM, Zirkzee to name a few.

Since you follow them much more than me,, could you tell what's your opinion on Will and Mai?


Sure, I think Mai has the quality to be an option for the senior team. I guess some of the youth prospect "shine" has worn off since he's been around for a bit, but he looked pretty good in his couple of appearances last season, and he's a rock for the 2nd team. Actually, my own opinion is that if Bayern doesn't sign de Ligt, they should just promote Mai full time to the senior squad.

I was pretty hopefull for Will, and I think he has a lot of talent, but I want to see how he looks coming back from his injuries. He's 20 now, so I think next season he'll want to play in a higher division. Maybe a loan to the 2nd Bundesliga would be good for him?

As I said before, I try to watch the 2nd team as much as possible, but sometimes it's tough due to broadcasting restrictions. However, I'm moving back to Munich in one month, and I want to go to a bunch of their games next season (especially if they're promoted to 3.Liga).
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Re: FC Bayern Youth

Postby ramsej84 » Sat May 25, 2019 3:19 pm

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Re: FC Bayern Youth

Postby bmguy » Sat May 25, 2019 4:42 pm




Let klose coach Bayern 1st team
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Re: FC Bayern Youth

Postby ramsej84 » Sat May 25, 2019 5:19 pm

bmguy wrote:



Let klose coach Bayern 1st team
One day he will .. one day he will for sure...
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Re: FC Bayern Youth

Postby bmguy » Tue May 28, 2019 6:21 am

I have a question: is it eligible for Bayern to have another reserve team to play in the amateur league?
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Re: FC Bayern Youth

Postby Firefox1234 » Tue May 28, 2019 6:28 am

bmguy wrote:I have a question: is it eligible for Bayern to have another reserve team to play in the amateur league?

What do you mean in having another reserve team? Each club can only have one reserve team, and that reserve team can only play two divisions lower than the main team.
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Re: FC Bayern Youth

Postby bmguy » Tue May 28, 2019 8:39 am

Firefox1234 wrote:
bmguy wrote:I have a question: is it eligible for Bayern to have another reserve team to play in the amateur league?

What do you mean in having another reserve team? Each club can only have one reserve team, and that reserve team can only play two divisions lower than the main team.


Thanks, I just wonder if we can push Bayern u17 or 19 to replace Bayern II in the Regionaliga, I guess no way :mrgreen:
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Re: FC Bayern Youth

Postby #12 » Tue May 28, 2019 8:09 pm

bmguy wrote:
Firefox1234 wrote:
bmguy wrote:I have a question: is it eligible for Bayern to have another reserve team to play in the amateur league?

What do you mean in having another reserve team? Each club can only have one reserve team, and that reserve team can only play two divisions lower than the main team.


Thanks, I just wonder if we can push Bayern u17 or 19 to replace Bayern II in the Regionaliga, I guess no way :mrgreen:


They’re not senior teams, they play in youth leagues - players that are good enough will automatically play for one of the two senior teams...
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Re: FC Bayern Youth

Postby Bomber_der_Nation » Thu May 30, 2019 10:09 am

bmguy wrote:I have a question: is it eligible for Bayern to have another reserve team to play in the amateur league?


Yes it is possible. There are many restrictions including a cap on how many reserve teams we can have. But the answer to your question is yes, we could have a Bayern III team, I assume they would start at Oberliga or Landesliga level (league 5 or 6).
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Re: FC Bayern Youth

Postby ramsej84 » Sat Jul 06, 2019 8:07 am

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Re: FC Bayern Youth

Postby nm462272 » Tue Aug 11, 2020 12:20 pm

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Racism on the Bayern Campus?

There is a suspicion of racism in the junior performance centre of FC Bayern Munich. Serious accusations are being made against an employee of the club, who has long been active as a coach in the youth department of the record champions, among other things.

Documents such as chat histories and letters which are available to the WDR background magazine Sport inside also suggest that FC Bayern has so far hardly reacted to the serious accusations. However, on Monday (10.08.2020) the club confirmed to WDR "internal investigations". The club is also coming under pressure from a Twitter account that appeared last week under the name of the employee, whom the club called a "fake account" when asked by WDR. In the past few days, unknown persons have published parts of an alleged chat history from a WhatsApp group within the youth section of the club. Often racist expressions

Sport inside, these chat logs have been available for several weeks. In the alleged chats, a participant with the name of the employee in question makes several clearly racist statements. In one case he posted a photo of a truck with the inscription "Bimbo" and wrote underneath: "Transport. This is where Negroes are transported from A to B." The post was commented on with smilies by other members of the group, obviously other coaches or scouts of the club.

In discussions about signing players, the employee also often uses racist language. In one case, he comments on the name, height and weight of a potential new member in this way: "Fat pig. A Negro, or." He wrote to one of his colleagues with the words: "Shut up, camel jockey." Several times, players are referred to as "Dirty Turk" or "Kanake". When proposing commitments of players with obvious immigrant backgrounds, he commented on them several times with the words: "Last name doesn't appeal to me." Anonymous complaint letters to the club management

The chat histories are said to be two years old, but are only now becoming public after several coaches recently left FC Bayern Campus, the club's youth performance centre. Some of them said they did not leave voluntarily. For some time now, there has been internal criticism of the behaviour of the Campus employee, who has enormous power - and is taking action against critics. In short, so the tenor of several conversations: The said employee is protected by the campus management.

Sport inside spoke with several former and still current coaches as well as with affected parents, who confirmed many of the accusations. Since September 2018 there have been four anonymous letters to FC Bayern. Alleged senders are said to be parents of children at the junior performance centre who are not named. Whether the letters actually originate from the parents cannot be clearly determined. The sender or senders complain about the way the youth coach treats the children entrusted to him. "In our helplessness..." - then the first letter begins, together with the request "to take the problems seriously and to examine them carefully internally". Accusation: Sadistic criminal training

These anonymous letters are also available to WDR. They were addressed to campus director Jochen Sauer, but also to the chairman of the board Karl-Heinz Rummenigge, the then club president Uli Hoeneß, sports director Hasan Salihamidzic as well as the sports director of the youth performance centre and co-trainer of the professional team, Hermann Gerland. The last letter, dated 28 October 2019, was addressed to the Deputy Sports Director of FC Bayern Campus Holger Seitz and is signed "the increasingly concerned but anxious parenthood".

In the letters, the youth coach is criticised not only for his treatment of children and young people and his sometimes homophobic and racist tone - but also for his training methods. There is talk of sadistic criminal training, some of which would be dangerous to health. One of the letters describes in detail the case of a player who collapsed. "Such people," write the author or authors, "are not allowed to work with children."

Furthermore, according to these letters, parents felt compelled to have their children represented by a certain player advisor with whom the accused employee is supposed to maintain close contact. How close the contacts with the named advisor are can partly be seen from the chat histories available to WDR. FC Bayern sees "a kind of private feud

The association confirmed the existence of three letters and informed WDR on request that they 'obviously came from one and the same sender'. Nevertheless, the letters were used as an opportunity to inform the parents of the players of the teams that had been sent by the member of the club.
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