zippy wrote:How can anybody "support" a national team different to their own anyway ? That's pathetic.
zippy wrote:How can anybody "support" a national team different to their own anyway ? That's pathetic.
zippy wrote:How can anybody "support" a national team different to their own anyway ?
zippy wrote:
How can anybody "support" a national team different to their own anyway ? That's pathetic.
quaazi wrote:I love how you assume that every person on the planet (the 7-odd million of them) live in a top footballing nations.
MaCk0y wrote:zippy wrote:How can anybody "support" a national team different to their own anyway ? That's pathetic.
You have to be in our position to understand.
zippy wrote:No I don't. England never win anything either but I'm English, so I support them. My team in England (Sheffield United) never wins anything either, that's just tough, I have to cope with it.
Payam wrote:So basically you have to live in a particular city, or by some other relation have connection or roots there, to be a "true supporter" of the team of the city.
Am I getting this right?
quaazi wrote:Yeees you do. Sheffield United is a very big team compared any over here. A Sheffield fan can have a ton more football than any fan of my NT or the local clubs. So you're missing the point altogether. Winning isn't important - being a proper football team who can compete with similarly strong teams in many competitions is what a fan needs, you know, the prerequisites of actually being able to be a fan of a club. My national team can barely beat the minnows of Europe, and any games happen like twice or thrice a year. You can't support a team like that if you want to follow football regularly.
What I am saying is - you're assuming I have anything to root for over here, which I do not. Our national team plays very few games per year, and the few good local clubs have to play de facto amateurs (that is people who make a living with jobs other than football), and there's nothing interesting or fascinating about cheering for a pub team in a league in which half the player show up hung over or better yet, drunk. So how about you get off your cliched high horse and that medieval attitude towards football fandom, that'd be nice.
zippy wrote:Payam wrote:So basically you have to live in a particular city, or by some other relation have connection or roots there, to be a "true supporter" of the team of the city.
Am I getting this right?
Yes imo that's exactly right. A supporter supports. You get these arguments on all football websites, glory seekers v the rest. We can agree to disagree, we all have our opinions and we all have a right to those opinions.
zippy wrote:We won the fourth division in 1982, that's all I've ever seen us win. I've watched United for about 40 years, most of the football was absolute crap. I don't know where you are so I'm not "assuming" anything.
zippy wrote:My attitude to football fandom is every bit as valid as yours. I don't like the idea of simply picking a club to support, that is my given right.
It's also no accident that 99% of people pick the likes of Bayern, Barcelona, Man Utd, AC Milan etc they never pick Hannover, Wigan, Getafe or Udinese.
For me it's just glory hunting. You can disagree, but a hell of a lot of fans agree. If I was a Man Utd fan from Manchester for instance I'd hate seeing the buses full of bandwagon jumpers from Ireland, Belgium, southern England etc turning up at games every two weeks.
If a foreign guy lives in Manchester and gets into supporting them then fine, even if he moves away he has a connection with the club and the fans.
Conquistador wrote:^Not many people choose Bayern as a clyub for glory hunting. The most glory hunters 'support' BARCA and MANURE....
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