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Re: 2014/15 Tactics & Formations Thread

Postby ramsej84 » Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:59 am

Steph wrote:Do any of you guys REALLY think that three at the back can work against our toughest opponents? I think that's what we should be focused on, what to do against our toughest opponents.

Obviously we also need to be completely dominant against lower sides so that we win ourselves another league title, but despite some of our matches near the end of the season - almost all of the time it seems like Pep has had that part figure out.


I think a 3-5-2 against the best teams and that famous 3-3-3-1 against lesser opponents (which was working wonders when we had almost everyone fit)
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Re: 2014/15 Tactics & Formations Thread

Postby RAJBAYERN » Thu Jun 04, 2015 2:08 pm

The 3-5-2 change to a 5-3-2 when the fullbacks return back for support the defense, also Alaba in the three man defensive line, act as a false defender, making it really a line of 3 composed by the two centreback and the defensive midfielder.

Against Barcelona, the fullbacks tried most of the time to have a major role as wingers, causing it to have a really 3 man defensive line, but with our best wingers available, there is no necessary to have fullbacks playing too high in most of the game.
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Re: 2014/15 Tactics & Formations Thread

Postby PunkCapitalist » Thu Jun 04, 2015 2:22 pm

Steph wrote:Do any of you guys REALLY think that three at the back can work against our toughest opponents? I think that's what we should be focused on, what to do against our toughest opponents.

Obviously we also need to be completely dominant against lower sides so that we win ourselves another league title, but despite some of our matches near the end of the season - almost all of the time it seems like Pep has had that part figure out.

Yes. As RAJBAYERN points out, 3-5-2/3-4-3 can turn into a 5 at the back in defense. Plus, AFAIK, modern fullbacks are so offensively inclined that 4-men defenses usually mean 2 CBs at the back (with *maybe* a defensive midfielder helping) most of the time, and specially against counters. So, as I see it, 3-4-3 is *more* defensive than a 4-3-3. But its largely a question of personnel. Boa-Javi-Bena is of course much more defensive than Alaba-Boa-Bena/Boa-Xabi-Bena (although I'm a fan of Alaba's free role.
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Re: 2014/15 Tactics & Formations Thread

Postby Firefox1234 » Thu Jun 04, 2015 2:27 pm

The reason for this seasons underwhelming results was more of a personnel issue than a tactical one, three in the back when Pep had his full personnel put up master class performances and I hope to continue to see it in the foreseeable future.
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Re: 2014/15 Tactics & Formations Thread

Postby ramsej84 » Fri Jun 05, 2015 10:01 am

This might be a like swearing in a sacred temple cause the formation below is Lahm less.
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Re: 2014/15 Tactics & Formations Thread

Postby AllensRoten » Fri Jun 05, 2015 11:56 am

ramsej84 wrote:This might be a like swearing in a sacred temple cause the formation below is Lahm less.

We need out captain... but I could see him and Basti take a rotational role mostly because of their age. I think this upcoming season will determine whether our 30yr olds (specifically our germans, but not excluding Robbery) will continue playing as top level starters or pass the guard on to the new generation.
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