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Re: 2013/2014 Tactics & formations thread

Postby Achilles » Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:11 pm

The only issue that really worries me is that Martinez will probably play as a CB,I really don't like it,I fear it and I really believe that this guy is born for DMF position.
It's really annoying...
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Re: 2013/2014 Tactics & formations thread

Postby BayernLeb » Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:27 pm

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Re: 2013/2014 Tactics & formations thread

Postby the12th » Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:12 pm

It seems to me that either we bought a 20mil Sub, or pep is getting back at Kalle and Uli for buying Gotze and not neymar, and BTW, if thiago will be a starter, i will lose all faith in Pep. He's nowhere as talented as any of bayerns starters last year...
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Re: 2013/2014 Tactics & formations thread

Postby SilentStrike » Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:22 pm

I just played 4-1-4-1 on FIFA with Thiago and Kroos and won 7-1 against Madrid.
Using last years formation I only won 2-0.

I think we can now all safely assume that with this new formation we'll be even MORE dominant! :mrgreen:
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Re: 2013/2014 Tactics & formations thread

Postby dambun » Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:21 pm

Well... this is really heart-warming.... :wink: :P
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Re: 2013/2014 Tactics & formations thread

Postby BayernLeb » Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:29 pm

SilentStrike wrote:I just played 4-1-4-1 on FIFA with Thiago and Kroos and won 7-1 against Madrid.
Using last years formation I only won 2-0.

I think we can now all safely assume that with this new formation we'll be even MORE dominant! :mrgreen:


seems legit...
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Re: 2013/2014 Tactics & formations thread

Postby Firefox1234 » Tue Jul 16, 2013 6:41 pm

Great post made on the other Bayern forum:
Thiago's answers trully calmed many people down. Not that there was any reason to panic like some fans did.



He knows he has to earn his spot and Bayern is aware of his quality.



Truth is: Bayern doesn't really play with a defensive midfielder. They didn't under Van Gaal, they didn't under Heynckes.



That's why Luiz Gustavo and Tymoshchuk never really fit in on Bayern's formation. Even though both of them made good matches with Bayern, their place was always in doubt.



Let's review:



* Tymoshchuk was bought without Louis van Gaal agreeing on it, just like Gomez. So that wasn't a good start. Often played out of position, Bayern even played better under van Gaal with experiments such as: Altintop-Bastian, Pranjic-Bastian and other combinations on the central midfield role when van Bommel wasn't able to play.



* Luiz Gustavo then arrived giving Tymoshchuk even LESS minutes. And Gustavo was always criticized because he was too defensive and didn't had the passing skils of van Bommel.



* Javi Martinez came because he is like van Bommel. Only with a better temper than the Dutch. No wonder he made a fantastic partnership with Schweinsteiger, similar to that of him with van Bommel on Bayern's first year.



* Thiago is a player similar to that of Kroos, Javi and Bastian. He can defend and pass the ball well, plus he is great on one v one situations.



* While Luiz Gustavo is good, Bayern doesn't really play with a full-time defensive midfielder. You all might say: "Barcelona plays with Busquets" - Well, Busquets isn't really a 100% defensive midfielder. He has great vision on the pitch, excelent passing skills and furthermore: he combines well with Xavi and Iniesta.





Overall, I think Gustavo will end up leaving the club. If not this season, the next. That is why I don't see Javi as a fulltime CB under Pep, aside from the fact that we do have 4 CB in Boateng, Kirchhoff, van Buyten and Dante. 5 when Badstuber comes back...



My guess is:



Bastian-Javi will start. Probably Kroos as well, on the 4-3-3 formation. Thiago will get minutes rotating with Kroos most likely.



Javi

Bastian-Kroos



Javi

Bastian-Thiago



Even in a 4-1-4-1 formation, it will always end up in a 4-3-3 formation while defending. It will only be a 4-1-4-1 when Bayern attacks:



Defending (4-3-3)



Neuer

Lahm, Boateng, Dante, Alaba

Javi

Bastian-Kroos/Thiago

Robben-Müller-Ribéry



Attacking (4-1-4-1)



Neuer

Lahm, Boateng, Dante, Alaba

Javi

Robben-Bastian-Kroos-Ribéry

Müller



And of course, while attacking Bayern usually adds Alaba and Lahm, so the formation will actually look like a 3-6-1:



Neuer

Boateng, Javi, Dante

Lahm, Robben----Bastian, Kroos----Ribéry, Alaba

Müller



Probable rotation plan

(Players are listed in the order of preference that I think Pep will have)



Players that won't be rotated: Neuer, Lahm



* Central defense: Dante and van Buyten - Boateng and Kirchhoff



* Left-back (and I have my doubts on this one): Alaba and Contento



* Central midfield: Bastian, Kroos, Javi, Thiago, Gustavo (for 2 positions)



* Offensive midfield: Götze, Müller, Shaqiri



* Left-midfield: Ribéry probably with Shaqiri at some point.



* Right-midfield: Robben, Müller, Shaqiri



* Striker: Mandzukic, Pizarro, Müller
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Re: 2013/2014 Tactics & formations thread

Postby lau03143 » Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:12 pm

Do you need to keep posting stuff from Bayernzone???
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Re: 2013/2014 Tactics & formations thread

Postby Firefox1234 » Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:20 pm

lau03143 wrote:Do you need to keep posting stuff from Bayernzone???


I rarely take direct posts i might take links about news but i rather not do this here PM me or a mod.....
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Re: 2013/2014 Tactics & formations thread

Postby Chalant » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:44 am

I think we should play a three-man defense, with Javi dropping back and forth from time to time to accomodate our now enlarged midfield. Javi and Bastian would have their workload increased, but this will allow Thiago and Kroos to work their magic.

Benching Martinez is simply insane, he is one of THE reasons for the treble, it would be stupid to drop him for Guardiola's tiki-taka fetish.



Muller and Shaqiri can play instead of Ribery and Robben respectively, and Gotze can play instead of Kroos or Thiago.
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Re: 2013/2014 Tactics & formations thread

Postby AdepT » Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:21 am

A 3 man defense with two full backs that too with Lahm and Alaba who aren't even 6'? :shock:
You my friend are unbelievably experimental. Even more so than Pep. :P
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Re: 2013/2014 Tactics & formations thread

Postby kod2600 » Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:31 am

Chalant wrote:I think we should play a three-man defense, with Javi dropping back and forth from time to time to accomodate our now enlarged midfield.


In my opinion, this is a suicide especially in the Bundesliga. Too risky even if you placed the right players.
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Re: 2013/2014 Tactics & formations thread

Postby Firefox1234 » Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:57 am

The irony in your post is appalling Chalant! :lol:
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Re: 2013/2014 Tactics & formations thread

Postby kod2600 » Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:07 am

Anyone has Pep's phone number? I want to call and remind him that the football team can start with only 11 players. =p
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Re: 2013/2014 Tactics & formations thread

Postby Rauntšik » Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:11 am

This is what I would prefer:

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