YlonenXabi wrote:Yes that's what I meant. Last season we didn't worry too much because we had Luiz Gustavo when Martinez was still adapting to the team. But now both will miss a key part of the pre-season with our new coach !
panzer wrote:I hope, we don't play like Barca. I don't want to see tiki-taka in Bayern. I don't like Barca's football. We are not Barca, we are Bayern. I hope Guardiola not forget it. If we play like Barca, then everybody will say Bayern has been like Barca's second team. We have to have own system. Which coach comes Bayern, he tries to adapt own system. If Bayern big and top team, then Bayern has to have own system. Where is the Bayern's legend ? Why our legends don't coach Bayern ? Why Bayern always tend the Spanish and Dutch coaches ?
If we like Barca, then why i watch Bayern matches. I go to watch Barca's matches and i be Barca fan.
Firefox1234 wrote:Bazi wrote:Depends on our system but it's a possibility for sure since he's that kind of CM with a lot of creativity and a hard work rate.
A lot will also depend on Martínez' role under Guardiola. Will he be a CB or a CDM? If he drops deeper into the back-four then we don't have a CDM aside from Gustavo and Can. Rode can't fill that spot.
We still know too little about Guardiola's plans.
Yikes! I would vomit the day i see Martinez lined up as a CB in a starting XI when Dante, DvB, Boa, and Kirchkoff are healthy. Martinez and Schweinstiger are the best midfield duo in Europe and possibly the world, im confident Pep sees that and isnt to interested in disrupting that unless he is 100%(not 99.9%) but 100% sure what he has as an alternative works just as good cause as soon as he changes things and the results dont show the world will be on his case. But in my opinion if Gustavo is happy then i see no problem....
Two weeks into his reign as Bayern Munich coach, Pep Guardiola is continuing to work on new ideas for the German Treble-winners, with reports suggesting he will change their system from 4-2-3-1 to 4-1-4-1.
Former coach Jupp Heynckes led the Bavarians to glory with two holding midfielders - most often Bastian Schweinsteiger and Javi Martinez, with Brazil international Luiz Gustavo as the first back-up option.
But as the Bundesliga champions continue pre-season training at their camp in Riva del Garda, Guardiola is looking for ways to make them an even more dominant attacking force.
"If the coach wants it like that, we cannot say we want to play like last year," midfielder Xherdan Shaqiri said. "He has a new philosophy, and he has had success with it."
Bayern captain Philipp Lahm said he felt adapting to a new system "will take time", adding: "These are only little adjustments, but in a couple of weeks we will see what our ideas of football will be."
Defender Daniel van Buyten said Guardiola starts thinking about football at the start of each day and addresses the players at a breakfast meeting.
"He always has a little tactics board to explain a couple of things to us," Van Buyten said, adding that he was not concerned by a likely switch to a zonal marking system at corners. "That's not a problem for me," he explained. "It is only a question of concentration."
The Belgium international, 35, who is approaching his eighth season for Bayern after signing a new one-year deal, added: "What the coach intends to do will make us even better. He is keen on the details.
"He tries to improve things that were not perfect last season. We might not have realised, but we are aware of them now. We are working on it, and that will make us better.
"If you have no goals left, you get weaker. Pep Guardiola will get us in a position to play an even better season. He wants more, he is ambitious."
Firefox1234 wrote:"If the coach wants it like that, we cannot say we want to play like last year," midfielder Xherdan Shaqiri said. "He has a new philosophy, and he has had success with it."
Firefox1234 wrote:But as the Bundesliga champions continue pre-season training at their camp in Riva del Garda, Guardiola is looking for ways to make them an even more dominant attacking force.
ramsej84 wrote:So are going to see this?
or Martinez CB and Gustavo as holding mdf?? hope not...
I think either 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 are the best for the players we've got
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