I missed the one sided clause. If that is the case then the scenario I feared is not possible and he can truly be regarded as one of us. Also, get off your high horse. I never judged him, in fact I am the one who asked for caution before we judge him.bastos80 wrote:MUTU wrote:bastos80 wrote:Like it makes a difference from what team he's coming or if it was a loan if he improves our team...
Also that loan thing is an excellent deal on our part. Can't really lose out on it.
Yes, it makes a difference from what team he's coming from. In an ideal world, a transfer serves not only to strengthen your team but to weaken your direct opponent, and Real Madrid is to be seen as our biggest competitor in the Champions League.
As for the loan, you really need to see the fine print on that loan contract to see whether or not it's excellent. Specifically, does the player have the right to refuse a Bayern offer? It would be weird if he performs really well and near the end of the loan when Bayern try to trigger the clause he simply says "no" and lands back in Madrid a month later, especially if they motivate him with promises of consistent playing time.
This is why I'm wary about calling him our player until I know for sure that a simple shake of the head could land him in another club in 2 years time without even needing to hold a pen in his hand. I mean you can use this argument against any player on contract, but at least they have to do more effort, like finding a new club and agreeing on a contract etc. With a loan that gives a player right of refusal it's different because inaction from his end (i.e. not signing a contract offered by Bayern) automatically lands him at Real Madrid in 2 years time with the same salary he was on and with just one year left on his contract which gives him negotiating powers for an improved salary.
1) "Yes, it makes a difference from what team he's coming from. In an ideal world, a transfer serves not only to strengthen your team but to weaken your direct opponent, and Real Madrid is to be seen as our biggest competitor in the Champions League."
LMAO, if you think we can actively weaken the biggest club in the world. Signing Robben didn't weaken them but it strengthens us, so who cares?
2) As for the loan, you really need to see the fine print on that loan contract to see whether or not it's excellent. Specifically, does the player have the right to refuse a Bayern offer? It would be weird if he performs really well and near the end of the loan when Bayern try to trigger the clause he simply says "no" and lands back in Madrid a month later, especially if they motivate him with promises of consistent playing time.
Yes, his contract at Bayern will automatically be extended for 3 more years should Bayern trigger the one-sided clause which you should know if you actually followed Bayern's press conferences. That being said you can stop your ridiculous judgment of James.
Ollio wrote:After losing to both of the Milan teams, man am I happy winning this game, against PL champions. What an utter humiliation this tour would've been if not. I guess it still is kinda.
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Coman wrote:Ollio wrote:After losing to both of the Milan teams, man am I happy winning this game, against PL champions. What an utter humiliation this tour would've been if not. I guess it still is kinda.
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Nobody cares about "humiliation" in pre-season tour with a B-squad.
Look at Real Madrid...
Only march/april/may counts.
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