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nm462272 · by **nm462272** » Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:11 pm

aterford wrote:6 is a bit harsh on Tolisso but honestly Sanches was a 7 at worst. Great performance from him today.

i'd give Sanches a 6 or 7, but i'd also give Tolisso an 8 or maybe even 9.

sherpthederp · by **sherpthederp** » Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:19 pm

Are these ratings out of 8 or something? Renato and Tolisso utterly dominated the midfield until they were split up by the subs.

bastos80 · by **bastos80** » Tue Jul 25, 2017 7:27 pm

MUTU wrote:
bastos80 wrote:Like it makes a difference from what team he's coming or if it was a loan if he improves our team...

Also that loan thing is an excellent deal on our part. Can't really lose out on it.

Yes, it makes a difference from what team he's coming from. In an ideal world, a transfer serves not only to strengthen your team but to weaken your direct opponent, and Real Madrid is to be seen as our biggest competitor in the Champions League.

As for the loan, you really need to see the fine print on that loan contract to see whether or not it's excellent. Specifically, does the player have the right to refuse a Bayern offer? It would be weird if he performs really well and near the end of the loan when Bayern try to trigger the clause he simply says "no" and lands back in Madrid a month later, especially if they motivate him with promises of consistent playing time.

This is why I'm wary about calling him our player until I know for sure that a simple shake of the head could land him in another club in 2 years time without even needing to hold a pen in his hand. I mean you can use this argument against any player on contract, but at least they have to do more effort, like finding a new club and agreeing on a contract etc. With a loan that gives a player right of refusal it's different because inaction from his end (i.e. not signing a contract offered by Bayern) automatically lands him at Real Madrid in 2 years time with the same salary he was on and with just one year left on his contract which gives him negotiating powers for an improved salary.

1) "Yes, it makes a difference from what team he's coming from. In an ideal world, a transfer serves not only to strengthen your team but to weaken your direct opponent, and Real Madrid is to be seen as our biggest competitor in the Champions League."
LMAO, if you think we can actively weaken the biggest club in the world. Signing Robben didn't weaken them but it strengthens us, so who cares?

2) As for the loan, you really need to see the fine print on that loan contract to see whether or not it's excellent. Specifically, does the player have the right to refuse a Bayern offer? It would be weird if he performs really well and near the end of the loan when Bayern try to trigger the clause he simply says "no" and lands back in Madrid a month later, especially if they motivate him with promises of consistent playing time.
Yes, his contract at Bayern will automatically be extended for 3 more years should Bayern trigger the one-sided clause which you should know if you actually followed Bayern's press conferences. That being said you can stop your ridiculous judgment of James.

mats19 · by **mats19** » Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:06 pm

FCBayernMunchen wrote:
mats19 wrote:Gotze's tackles was awesome
As for our midfield: I don't think Tolisso either James should be starters with all all players fit

You don't want 2 of our best 3 players in preseason (Müller being the other) to start?

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Yup, I would stick with Thiago-Vidal-Muller
Both Tolisso and James played well but didn't show nothing special yet to be starters imo.

But is good we have more options!

bastos80 · by **bastos80** » Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:21 pm

You must be blind. Tolisso has been fantastic and if he continues like that he's got nothing to hide from Vidal.

FCBayernMunchen · by **FCBayernMunchen** » Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:34 pm

Tolisso can bench anyone if he keeps these performances up

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IsiahRashad · by **IsiahRashad** » Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:43 pm

mats19 wrote:
FCBayernMunchen wrote:
mats19 wrote:Gotze's tackles was awesome
As for our midfield: I don't think Tolisso either James should be starters with all all players fit

You don't want 2 of our best 3 players in preseason (Müller being the other) to start?

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Yup, I would stick with Thiago-Vidal-Muller
Both Tolisso and James played well but didn't show nothing special yet to be starters imo.

But is good we have more options!

Huh ?

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#-o

sherpthederp · by **sherpthederp** » Tue Jul 25, 2017 9:36 pm

I think the most entertaining thing in that entire match was James's face every time Ribery dribbled someone, he was in shock lol.

kod2600 · by **kod2600** » Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:04 pm

Funniest part of the game:

The famous Arabian commentator "Yusef Saif" said this when Ribery was leaving for the water break:

"So Ribery leaves the pitch, the player Break is coming in." (Because the words WATER BREAK was written on the corner of the screen)

And that's where I lost it hahahahaha

kod2600 · by **kod2600** » Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:06 pm

And the memes followed:

mats19 · by **mats19** » Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:37 pm

bastos80 wrote:You must be blind. Tolisso has been fantastic and if he continues like that he's got nothing to hide from Vidal.

FCBayernMunchen wrote:Tolisso can bench anyone if he keeps these performances up

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Based on wich Thiago/Vidal form?

IsiahRashad wrote:Huh ?

Can't see tweet? Click here!

He had a good game. So what? I've said that

FCBayernMunchen · by **FCBayernMunchen** » Wed Jul 26, 2017 1:09 am

I love both Thiago and Vidal; Thiago is possibly our best player and I have said time and again that we should not sell Vidal under any circumstance. Tolisso should play alongside them. However, if he keeps playing like this and probably also improving (age and the fact that this is a new club) he will be able to offer us more than Vidal normally does.

tflags · by **tflags** » Wed Jul 26, 2017 3:56 am

sherpthederp wrote:I think the most entertaining thing in that entire match was James's face every time Ribery dribbled someone, he was in shock lol.

Nothing beats the Indonisian fellow with a sign that read: "Wenger out" :lol:

Mani · by **Mani** » Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:47 am

I really want to see Bayern playing with Vidal, Thiago and Tolisso all starting. But that leads to a problem in the attack, I'm not sure which three players I would pick out of Lewandowski, Muller, Robben and James.

ramsej84 · by **ramsej84** » Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:50 am

Mani wrote:I really want to see Bayern playing with Vidal, Thiago and Tolisso all starting. But that leads to a problem in the attack, I'm not sure which three players I would pick out of Lewandowski, Muller, Robben and James.

Muller James both behind #9

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