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[2017-08-01] Bayern Munich vs Liverpool
Re: [2017-08-01] Bayern Munich vs Liverpool
by Lukas » Tue Aug 01, 2017 9:50 pm
Depression and anger after a friendly is never a good sign, but that's what I'm feeling right now. The realisation that this is pretty much it for the next nine months.
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Re: [2017-08-01] Bayern Munich vs Liverpool
by ramsej84 » Tue Aug 01, 2017 9:53 pm
You are right at the moment I don't know what is the best solution for us...YlonenXabi wrote:ramsej84 wrote:[
I am getting worried about Javi at cb...
He looks lost...
As much as I would like to remind your words about Javi and Boateng a few weeks ago, I don't think we should focus on individual performances today. Otherwise we would be selling 9-10 players
The system and the tactics made thame look clueless and lost on the field.
Maybe a theree men df is the answer...
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Re: [2017-08-01] Bayern Munich vs Liverpool
by Effenberg777 » Tue Aug 01, 2017 9:54 pm
Ohhh calm down sissy girls
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Re: [2017-08-01] Bayern Munich vs Liverpool
by nm462272 » Tue Aug 01, 2017 9:57 pm
Effenberg777 wrote:Ohhh calm down sissy girls
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Re: [2017-08-01] Bayern Munich vs Liverpool
by America USA » Tue Aug 01, 2017 10:05 pm
I agree that the meltdowns over here can be very over the top at times and uncalled for. I also agree that this was a meaningless preseason match and it's results are totally irrelevant. However, Bayern Munich looked like a pub team against fu¢king Liverpool for gods sake (that too for entire 90 minutes!) that's what really pissed me off!
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Re: [2017-08-01] Bayern Munich vs Liverpool
by Roonzil » Tue Aug 01, 2017 10:09 pm
Effenberg777 wrote:Ohhh calm down sissy girls
Wait...there are more women here? Oh...wait...you think being a woman is an insult. F*ck off, troll.
She’s beauty, she’s grace, if u tell her she only watches football for the attractive players she’ll punch u in the face.
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Re: [2017-08-01] Bayern Munich vs Liverpool
by Roonzil » Tue Aug 01, 2017 10:14 pm
She’s beauty, she’s grace, if u tell her she only watches football for the attractive players she’ll punch u in the face.
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Re: [2017-08-01] Bayern Munich vs Liverpool
by Ollio » Tue Aug 01, 2017 10:22 pm
America USA wrote:I agree that the meltdowns over here can be very over the top at times and uncalled for. I also agree that this was a meaningless preseason match and it's results are totally irrelevant.
I disagree. The season start is too close for this to be irrelevant anymore, and this wasn't a single crap performance but one of many.
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Re: [2017-08-01] Bayern Munich vs Liverpool
by FCBayernMunchen » Tue Aug 01, 2017 10:23 pm
Oh well at least I won €65
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Re: [2017-08-01] Bayern Munich vs Liverpool
by dras_l » Tue Aug 01, 2017 10:28 pm
Liverpool has CL qualify match in two weeks, off course they are in better shape. This is much better start than we have had under Pep – invincible until February and then everything fall apart. Carlo is smart manager, testing responsibility on the pitch is also great idea – some player will not play in first squad for a long time. People who are paying 60 EUR for pre-season match are crazy, their lost.
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[2017-08-01] Bayern Munich vs Liverpool
by Ollio » Tue Aug 01, 2017 11:03 pm
dras_l wrote:Liverpool has CL qualify match in two weeks, off course they are in better shape. This is much better start than we have had under Pep – invincible until February and then everything fall apart. Carlo is smart manager, testing responsibility on the pitch is also great idea – some player will not play in first squad for a long time. People who are paying 60 EUR for pre-season match are crazy, their lost.
Winning matches in preseason isn't a promise of a great season, I know. But I don't think losing them is a sign of greatness either. For all we know, we could be out of all competitions by February.
The thing is, we're not exactly experimenting either. We're on pretty familiar terrotory player- and tactics-wise. We should do better.
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Re: [2017-08-01] Bayern Munich vs Liverpool
by aterford » Tue Aug 01, 2017 11:04 pm
Worst preseasons we've had in years....Can't remember the last time we looked so poor, Klinsi perhaps?
It is funny. Last year it was "the season is early" and then "well it's only Carlos first year" and now it's "well it's just preseason"....then soon it's gonna be "well the season is young" and "it's only Carlos second year" etc etc etc.
While I get that it's preseason and we shouldn't totally freak out I think there's perfectly legitimate reasons for concern. We are playing with NO tactical savvy whatsoever. It's crystal clear that Ancelotti hasn't figured out any changes to make to fix last seasons issues. We're inflexible and show no creativity in attack and our defense makes Pep's high-line look like we had Beckenbauer and Schwarzenbeck... Lewandowski has been totally invisible (though to be fair much of the squad has been flat out awful). Everything good that we've done so far has came as a result of sheer individual talent rather than tactical creativity or game planning.
Things need to change quickly or we're going to be in for a long season. In two windows with Ancelotti we've had a higher net spend than three under Pep. Admittedly, fees are up, but still the discrepancy is pretty noticeable. The squad isn't perfect by any means, but he's had just as much talent available to him as Guardiola and arguably as much or more opportunity to improve the squad already. Something's gotta give.
It is funny. Last year it was "the season is early" and then "well it's only Carlos first year" and now it's "well it's just preseason"....then soon it's gonna be "well the season is young" and "it's only Carlos second year" etc etc etc.
While I get that it's preseason and we shouldn't totally freak out I think there's perfectly legitimate reasons for concern. We are playing with NO tactical savvy whatsoever. It's crystal clear that Ancelotti hasn't figured out any changes to make to fix last seasons issues. We're inflexible and show no creativity in attack and our defense makes Pep's high-line look like we had Beckenbauer and Schwarzenbeck... Lewandowski has been totally invisible (though to be fair much of the squad has been flat out awful). Everything good that we've done so far has came as a result of sheer individual talent rather than tactical creativity or game planning.
Things need to change quickly or we're going to be in for a long season. In two windows with Ancelotti we've had a higher net spend than three under Pep. Admittedly, fees are up, but still the discrepancy is pretty noticeable. The squad isn't perfect by any means, but he's had just as much talent available to him as Guardiola and arguably as much or more opportunity to improve the squad already. Something's gotta give.
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Re: [2017-08-01] Bayern Munich vs Liverpool
by #12 » Tue Aug 01, 2017 11:25 pm
aterford wrote:Worst preseasons we've had in years....Can't remember the last time we looked so poor, Klinsi perhaps?
It is funny. Last year it was "the season is early" and then "well it's only Carlos first year" and now it's "well it's just preseason"....then soon it's gonna be "well the season is young" and "it's only Carlos second year" etc etc etc.
While I get that it's preseason and we shouldn't totally freak out I think there's perfectly legitimate reasons for concern. We are playing with NO tactical savvy whatsoever. It's crystal clear that Ancelotti hasn't figured out any changes to make to fix last seasons issues. We're inflexible and show no creativity in attack and our defense makes Pep's high-line look like we had Beckenbauer and Schwarzenbeck... Lewandowski has been totally invisible (though to be fair much of the squad has been flat out awful). Everything good that we've done so far has came as a result of sheer individual talent rather than tactical creativity or game planning.
Things need to change quickly or we're going to be in for a long season. In two windows with Ancelotti we've had a higher net spend than three under Pep. Admittedly, fees are up, but still the discrepancy is pretty noticeable. The squad isn't perfect by any means, but he's had just as much talent available to him as Guardiola and arguably as much or more opportunity to improve the squad already. Something's gotta give.
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The current one is too occupied with gluttony to do any actual work...
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Re: [2017-08-01] Bayern Munich vs Liverpool
by JANCKER » Tue Aug 01, 2017 11:27 pm
Swap Carlo for Kloppo... do it.
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Re: [2017-08-01] Bayern Munich vs Liverpool
by Fénix » Tue Aug 01, 2017 11:41 pm
Bad pre-season preparations I have to admit. The only positive spot in the whole story was the match against Chelsea, the rest is more than just poor. According to these preparations, we can't be very optimistic ahead of the new season.
Super Cup match is approaching and I'm not quite sure that we'll have a lot of fun despite Dortmund are having their problems with the team's system, adapting to the new coach, etc.
However, our season goals must be very clear after the last season: nothing less than winning Double. If Ancelotti ends up as Ancefloppi in the May 2018, then we must say goodbye to him.
Super Cup match is approaching and I'm not quite sure that we'll have a lot of fun despite Dortmund are having their problems with the team's system, adapting to the new coach, etc.
However, our season goals must be very clear after the last season: nothing less than winning Double. If Ancelotti ends up as Ancefloppi in the May 2018, then we must say goodbye to him.
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