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ramsej84 · by **ramsej84** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 3:09 pm

4-3-2-1 ... no arguments...

We can#t rely on Robbery anymore... then there is only Coman... He will play as super sub.

YlonenXabi · by **YlonenXabi** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 3:10 pm

Pelin wrote:
YlonenXabi wrote:I'm still confused with our tactics

I like 4-2-3-1 and I was hoping to play like that this year, but after signing Tolisso and James and offloading Costa (and Gnabry) I was convinced that our tactics were going to change to a less dependant on the wings style

But now we seem to be playing 4-2-3-1 again

I'm happy with our transfers this season, but if we are planning to play 4-2-3-1 then I can't see any logic. We were missing a replacement for both Robben and Ribery and we haven't signed any. In fact we just sold a potential Robbery succesor.

I'm really confused now.

Since first Mainz game last season, we are playing with 4-2-3-1 and we will continue with it.

Carlo already said he would rotate James between RW, LW and trequartista.

Yes, that's what I'm saying

If we play 4-2-3-1 then we definitely need a true winger and I can't see the logic in signing two central players like Tolisso and James and NO replacement for Robbery. Specially with Goretzka coming next season.

Now we have Vidal, Thiago, Rudy, Renato and Tolisso for 2 positions.

Yes, James can play on the wings, but that's not his best position

YlonenXabi · by **YlonenXabi** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 3:12 pm

And I'm afraid that Ribery might be this season's Alonso with one main difference. Ribery will get injured as soon as he plays 4-5 games in a row. #-o

ramsej84 · by **ramsej84** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 3:32 pm

nm462272 · by **nm462272** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 3:33 pm

Pretty pointless game. Again, I think our main players were tired from so many games, and our 2nd team... maybe the less said, the better

Something I noticed though was that Renato played pretty well again. Maybe his talk with KHR gave him some confidence? It was actually pretty remarkable how much better he is than our other players at his age. I will admit, I was mistaken about him. If he continues to play like that and improve, he very well may have a future with Bayern.

Ollio · by **Ollio** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 3:35 pm

nm462272 wrote:Pretty pointless game. Again, I think our main players were tired from so many games, and our 2nd team... maybe the less said, the better

Something I noticed though was that Renato played pretty well again. Maybe his talk with KHR gave him some confidence? It was actually pretty remarkable how much better he is than our other players at his age. I will admit, I was mistaken about him. If he continues to play like that and improve, he very well may have a future with Bayern.

I agree. After the last two matches I'd feel pretty sad to see him go. Thankfully Uli (or Kalle?) said that we'd only maybe loan him for developement rather than like with Costa.

MUTU · by **MUTU** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 3:37 pm

YlonenXabi wrote:In fact we just sold a potential Robbery succesor.

I'm really confused now.

Yes you're confused. We didn't sell a Robbery successor. We loaned him out with option to buy, which means that if he sucks so much that Juventus wouldn't want to exercise his option, he can return to replace Robbery.

Pips · by **Pips** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 3:47 pm

IsiahRashad wrote:Well, earlier this month we was talking that Renato is 19 yo and we should judge him as an adult and from the other side-Felix is also 19 yo. We should judge him as an adult as well.
Don't make double standards.

Well i wasnt in that Renato conversation, Renato have some experience unlike Goetze, yes he make mistakes but he is better with every new match same as other young players, Lewa, Hummels play like sh.t and we know that they are key to Bayern succes, not Pantic and rest of kids.

IsiahRashad · by **IsiahRashad** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 4:02 pm

Pips wrote:
IsiahRashad wrote:Well, earlier this month we was talking that Renato is 19 yo and we should judge him as an adult and from the other side-Felix is also 19 yo. We should judge him as an adult as well.
Don't make double standards.

Well i wasnt in that Renato conversation, Renato have some experience unlike Goetze, yes he make mistakes but he is better with every new match same as other young players, Lewa, Hummels play like sh.t and we know that they are key to Bayern succes, not Pantic and rest of kids.

Felix was the reason today for making our defence look so bad, you can clearly see that from the replays or if you watch the highlights.
Yes, they are the people for Bayern success, but you cannot expect them to play on one level with our starting players and with the youngsters. If you trained football, basketball or any other team sport you should know what I'm talking about.
The young guys usually are overhyped and wanna show up to everyone, but this is not happening with Felix. I don't see no one complain about Dorsh? And there's a reason why.

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MUTU · by **MUTU** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 4:06 pm

Diego Eder and Felix van Buyten.

RAJBAYERN · by **RAJBAYERN** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 4:52 pm

Too many friendlies will cost us the german supercup.

Today, both goals of Inter, could be prevent if Hummels do something in both plays, but he didnt because he showed symptoms of tiredness..

The problem is that we have 2 more games with the audi cup, so this could get worst for our legs before that supercup game..

rthebest · by **rthebest** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 4:55 pm

You play youngsters to learn from their mistakes. How many senior level matches has he played ? stop blaming the kid he is only 19. Blame the boss for his naive tactics.

MUTU · by **MUTU** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 5:03 pm

RAJBAYERN wrote:Too many friendlies will cost us the german supercup.

Today, both goals of Inter, could be prevent if Hummels do something in both plays, but he didnt because he showed symptoms of tiredness..

The problem is that we have 2 more games with the audi cup, so this could get worst for our legs before that supercup game..

I thought of this, but then realised we will soon welcome back Neuer, Boateng, Kimmich, Robben, Vidal, Thiago, Suele and Rudy who despite missing match practice should be well rested.

RAJBAYERN · by **RAJBAYERN** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 5:08 pm

MUTU wrote:
RAJBAYERN wrote:Too many friendlies will cost us the german supercup.

Today, both goals of Inter, could be prevent if Hummels do something in both plays, but he didnt because he showed symptoms of tiredness..

The problem is that we have 2 more games with the audi cup, so this could get worst for our legs before that supercup game..

I thought of this, but then realised we will soon welcome back Neuer, Boateng, Kimmich, Robben, Vidal, Thiago, Suele and Rudy who despite missing match practice should be well rested.

But I dont know if Neuer will be ready this match, also Sule, Rudy, Vidal and Kimmich with only a week of training couldnt be fit enough for this game.

MUTU · by **MUTU** » Thu Jul 27, 2017 5:20 pm

RAJBAYERN wrote:
MUTU wrote:
RAJBAYERN wrote:Too many friendlies will cost us the german supercup.

Today, both goals of Inter, could be prevent if Hummels do something in both plays, but he didnt because he showed symptoms of tiredness..

The problem is that we have 2 more games with the audi cup, so this could get worst for our legs before that supercup game..

I thought of this, but then realised we will soon welcome back Neuer, Boateng, Kimmich, Robben, Vidal, Thiago, Suele and Rudy who despite missing match practice should be well rested.

But I dont know if Neuer will be ready this match, also Sule, Rudy, Vidal and Kimmich with only a week of training couldnt be fit enough for this game.

True, Neuer will be ready for the Bundesliga opener. But in any case we will have more strength in depth notwithstanding the short amount of training.

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