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[2021-07-24] Bayern Munich vs AFC Ajax

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What is your prediction for this match?

Poll ended at Sat Jul 24, 2021 3:30 pm

Bayern Munich will win
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It will end in a draw
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Ajax Amsterdam will win
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Total votes : 3

Re: [2021-07-24] Bayern Munich vs AFC Ajax

Postby bmguy » Sun Jul 25, 2021 4:11 am

Vita: 1.7m 66kg just like Messi :mrgreen: Zirkzee apart from the great chance, made lots of wrong passes to opponents, he can't either score or assist
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Re: [2021-07-24] Bayern Munich vs AFC Ajax

Postby YlonenXabi » Sun Jul 25, 2021 4:32 am

bmguy wrote:Zirkzee must go, can't stand it anymore


Agreed


But weren't you the one complaining because Bayern didn't give enough playing time to their academy players just a couple of days ago? Well, Zirkzee is probably one of our best academy players right now and you want him gone :lol:

Now you understand why we don't see them playing with the first team more often :)
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Re: [2021-07-24] Bayern Munich vs AFC Ajax

Postby bmguy » Sun Jul 25, 2021 5:31 am

YlonenXabi wrote:
bmguy wrote:Zirkzee must go, can't stand it anymore


Agreed


But weren't you the one complaining because Bayern didn't give enough playing time to their academy players just a couple of days ago? Well, Zirkzee is probably one of our best academy players right now and you want him gone :lol:

Now you understand why we don't see them playing with the first team more often :)


You have problems to read my comment ? I complain that Bayern don't have proper plan to integrate young players, players like stiller, dorsch ... should only be loaned out instead of permanent sold. That's a bit too early. German young players seem to mature a bit slower than their counterparts in other countries. Imagine if we sold bastian schweinsteiger or Lahm, not sure what would happen to the team.
I can't remember the last time that we can introduce new face from the youth to the senior team. Compared to the guy like Ger90 from Bigsoccer, who knows German footy inside out alot better than me, my complain is nothing.

P/S: I never see Zirkzee as a good player even when he scored 4 goals last year.
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Re: [2021-07-24] Bayern Munich vs AFC Ajax

Postby YlonenXabi » Sun Jul 25, 2021 7:38 am

Have we really missed out on any of our academy players?

I'd say our plan to integrate young players is fine, but the players themselves aren't good enough for Bayern standards. And that's why most of them end up playing for lower clubs or we never hear from them again


Zirkzee is one of our best academy players and he is pretty average.
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Re: [2021-07-24] Bayern Munich vs AFC Ajax

Postby Ottomeister87 » Sun Jul 25, 2021 9:58 am

Zirkzee is overrated Xabi..

He cant shoot a dent in a tin can in the 3 liga.. Only kick in the 1860's goalie face..

He is so lackluster trotting over the field, not going after balls he loses, playing so many wrong passes..

Thats why none actually wants him. Not even in his country Netherlands there is any interest in him. Get rid of him, he doesnt deserve to wear the shirt in the way he acts on the field. He doesnt show that he wants it, something Flick openly had negative comment about also.
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Re: [2021-07-24] Bayern Munich vs AFC Ajax

Postby ramsej84 » Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:09 am



Exactly.... He had a big continuation when god flick was experiencing difficulties when Lewa was out inj
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Re: [2021-07-24] Bayern Munich vs AFC Ajax

Postby YlonenXabi » Sun Jul 25, 2021 1:32 pm

Choupo Moting has been so much better for us than Zirkzee yet you used to call him a donkey.
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Re: [2021-07-24] Bayern Munich vs AFC Ajax

Postby ramsej84 » Sun Jul 25, 2021 2:01 pm

YlonenXabi wrote:Choupo Moting has been so much better for us than Zirkzee yet you used to call him a donkey.
Zirkzee saved and possibly secured us the treble without even noticing
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Re: [2021-07-24] Bayern Munich vs AFC Ajax

Postby Ottomeister87 » Sun Jul 25, 2021 8:25 pm

ramsej84 wrote:
YlonenXabi wrote:Choupo Moting has been so much better for us than Zirkzee yet you used to call him a donkey.
Zirkzee saved and possibly secured us the treble without even noticing


Dont overexaggerate please, yes he scored some important goals. Thats it..
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Re: [2021-07-24] Bayern Munich vs AFC Ajax

Postby YlonenXabi » Mon Jul 26, 2021 2:41 am

We won the league by 13+1 points

I'd say Zirkzee was one of the players from our squad with the lesser influence in our treble.
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Re: [2021-07-24] Bayern Munich vs AFC Ajax

Postby ramsej84 » Mon Jul 26, 2021 7:10 am

YlonenXabi wrote:We won the league by 13+1 points

I'd say Zirkzee was one of the players from our squad with the lesser influence in our treble.
If I remember correctly at one pt (not sure if it was before covid when Lewa was not available)when we were close to the team behind us he scored two late goals in two different games
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Re: [2021-07-24] Bayern Munich vs AFC Ajax

Postby MUTU » Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:18 am

Look ramsej84, we would all like youths coming up from our own nursery and becoming legends of the game... but, it shouldn't be forced, and one needs to remain rational. We shouldn't aim to weaken our team just because we want to discriminate against those who didn't come from our nursery. Bayern is a 'family', and a family cares for all its members, not only the children born naturally but also the ones adopted/fostered. That's the real family.
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Re: [2021-07-24] Bayern Munich vs AFC Ajax

Postby #12 » Thu Jul 29, 2021 1:40 pm

Except when they‘re called Bernat…

(And a few others by mood of the patron )
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