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you have more than a valid point... it cuts both ways...
You either chose the country of both your parents (if they are mixed you will spoiled for choice) or else chose to play for the birth country.

if I had to be in the same sit I would choose the country in which my parents were born!

ramsej84 wrote:you have more than a valid point... it cuts both ways...
You either chose the country of both your parents (if they are mixed you will spoiled for choice) or else chose to play for the birth country.

if I had to be in the same sit I would chose the country in which my parents were born!

I call these kind of people national mercenaries.

The rules are incredibly frustrating. If one grandparent had a different citizenship to yours, you can obtain such citizenship and represent that country. Thing is, your grandparent might not have even lived in such country; (s)he could have had that citizenship from his/her grandparent too! See what I'm getting it? Just because you have US citizenship doesn't mean you are American. Theoretically you could have US citizenship when your great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandfather used to live there for a few years.

If I was FIFA president I would ensure to implement a rule whereby no one can represent a country in which he has not lived. If Tillman likes the US so much, he should go there and play in the MLS, rather than betray the country that gave him everything. But for now, just sell his ungrateful ass to Barcelona please, if they still want him.

If he's never been interested in living in a country, for whatever reason(s), why should he be allowed to represent it? How is it possible to love a country so much that you want to represent it, and yet refuse to set foot on it except maybe to go on holiday? The answer is, you don't. He's not doing this out of love: he's doing it out of convenience. Now, sell his ass to Barcelona.

*breathe in* *breath out* OK I've calmed down now. I don't understand why I always get so emotional about nationalities

Anyway, earlier I wrote we should "sell his ass to Barcelona", so I did some digging and it seems his contract runs out at the end of this season. So, we paid €500,000 to buy Tillman from Greuther Fürth (who described him as the best talent in 30 years: "Timothy Tillman is the biggest talent we have had for 30 years. His departure is a catastrophe for our club."), Barcelona had offered us some money to get him a year ago and we rejected it, but at the present day he is free to sign a contract with any club and move on a free transfer at the end of the season. We should either renew his contract or else try and sell him this month.

MUTU wrote:

ramsej84 wrote:you have more than a valid point... it cuts both ways...
You either chose the country of both your parents (if they are mixed you will spoiled for choice) or else chose to play for the birth country.

if I had to be in the same sit I would chose the country in which my parents were born!

I call these kind of people national mercenaries.

The rules are incredibly frustrating. If one grandparent had a different citizenship to yours, you can obtain such citizenship and represent that country. Thing is, your grandparent might not have even lived in such country; (s)he could have had that citizenship from his/her grandparent too! See what I'm getting it? Just because you have US citizenship doesn't mean you are American. Theoretically you could have US citizenship when your great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandfather used to live there for a few years.

If I was FIFA president I would ensure to implement a rule whereby no one can represent a country in which he has not lived. If Tillman likes the US so much, he should go there and play in the MLS, rather than betray the country that gave him everything. But for now, just sell his ungrateful ass to Barcelona please, if they still want him.

I think there are some kind of rules.
If I am not mistaken only the father counts...
And they only go back to the grandfather..

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Yes they go back to the grandfather, but is it necessary for the grandfather to have lived in the country, or could he have had the citizenship because his own grandfather lived there?

Ah ok, the grandparent needs to have been born in that country. That's all.

Basically, a pregnant woman on holiday can give birth in a foreign country, take the kid back with her and the kid's grandchildren may one day be able to represent that country.

MUTU wrote:Yes they go back to the grandfather, but is it necessary for the grandfather to have lived in the country, or could he have had the citizenship because his own grandfather lived there?

Place of birth only...
In fact MLT FA is always on the look out for players eligible to play for our nation in Australia UK and even Italy and they are also morning Cardona who is on the books of AS Monaco

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It is an emotional topic, I remember how Jamaica qualified for the 98 WC mainly with home based players but sent to the tournament a squad based on British players descendants of Jamaicans and many had never been in the Caribbean, they called them "our Beatles".

When big clubs started to to build pipelines to bring young kids to Europe, try them and left those who did not make grade destroyed as human beings on their own, FIFA implemented all kinds of rules to protect them. Where we are getting at is that in today's globalized world FIFA rules seem dated.